To everyone: WOW! Talk about opening a can of worms! It's been quite interesting reading the different viewpoints regarding the use of statics vs singletons, whether Perl is OO or not, etc. etc. etc. It's this kind of discussion that makes this list one (if not THE) best list on the web.
Ted: Thanks for answering the specific question. As much as I've enjoyed the thread, all I really wanted to know is if my approach for these 'helper' methods was appropriate or not. I'm not sure what you mean by 'whether instantiating Password is an issue' - I can't think of a case where instantiating any class would be an issue, so I guess I could change the Password class to be a 'normal' class. The 'getEncryptedPassword()' method is used by several different classes, so I don't really want to make it part of a specific class - that's one of the reasons I moved it to a 'helper' class and made it static. I guess the only question I have remaining is whether there is a problem with maintaining 'thread safety' with the use of a static method.... Is there a chance that two or more users can get to the method at the same time and clobber each other? Jerry Jalenak Team Lead, Web Publishing LabOne, Inc. 10101 Renner Blvd. Lenexa, KS 66219 (913) 577-1496 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:34 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] Use of Static Methods It's mainly a question of whether instantiating Password is an issue. If not, then make it a normal method. Ideally, getEncryptedPassword should be a method of whatever class needs to call it. The benefit of static methods is that they can be called without instantiating the class that contains them. So long as instantiation is not an issue, then make it a normal method on whichever class needs to use it. (Or make Password a member class of whichever classes need to call it, and instantiate it when the parent class is instantiated.) -Ted. Jerry Jalenak wrote: > <back-from-lunch> > > Thanks to everyone for weighing in on this. I certainly didn't expect this > type of discussion. > > Let me give an example of what we are trying to do, and see if this is > appropriate or not. For various reasons we have a 'roll your own' logon > authentication process. Part of the process takes the users password, and > using a stored digest key, we encrypt it and then compare it to the stored > (encrypted) password. If they match, great. If not, then we return an > error. The code that we use to do the encryption looks like the following: > > public static byte[] getEncryptedPassword(byte[] digestKey, String > password) > { > try > { > MessageDigest md = > MessageDigest.getInstance("SHA1"); > md.update(digestKey); > md.update(password.getBytes()); > return (md.digest()); > } > catch(Exception e) > { > return (null); > } > } > > The class name is 'Password', so to call this method we use something like > 'Password.getEncryptedPassword(storedDigestKey, enteredPassword)'. Is this > type of method appropriate for a 'static' method? Or should this be a > singleton? Or a normal class? > > > > Jerry Jalenak > Team Lead, Web Publishing > LabOne, Inc. > 10101 Renner Blvd. > Lenexa, KS 66219 > (913) 577-1496 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yee, Richard K,,DMDCWEST [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:35 PM > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: [OT] Use of Static Methods > > > I and a lot of other developers would disagree with the statement > "Static methods are evil for many reasons including philosophical (they're > not OO) and practical (you can't override their behavior)." > > 1) Whenever you write a method that only accesses static data of a class, > you should declare the method as static. > > 2) It is not correct to say that static methods can't be overriden. They can > be overridden with another static method. You can't override a static method > to be non-static, however. > > 3) There are many cases where using the static modifier on a method is > totally appropriate. Typically, they are used on methods that provide a very > specific functionality that will never change. Using the static modifier on > such methods also reduces the overall memory footprint of an application. > > Regards, > > Richard > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:22 AM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: [OT] Use of Static Methods > > > >>One of my programmers asked me whether or not it is OK to define >>helper methods as 'static' - and I realized that I didn't know the >>answer. So I guess the question is, in a web application, can common >>code be factored out >>to a helper class and marked as 'static'? > > > Static methods are evil for many reasons including philosophical (they're > not OO) and practical (you can't override their behavior). You should use a > Singleton class with non-static methods. > > Struts' RequestUtils class is a good example of why you should never use > static methods. Developers want to override their behavior but can't > because everything is static. > > David > > >>Are there any major problems >>with >>doing this? I should know the answer, but just can't put my thumb on >>it right now.... 8) >> >>TIA! >> >>Jerry Jalenak >>Team Lead, Web Publishing >>LabOne, Inc. >>10101 Renner Blvd. >>Lenexa, KS 66219 >>(913) 577-1496 >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>This transmission (and any information attached to it) may be >>confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or >>entity to which it is >>addressed. 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