Man (you already used Dude), I already stated that that doc is much better than the 50 other docs out there as far as JSTL reference. It appears to be a scan of a book in crappy PDF format.
I just think it is very elitist for Dave to be constantly throwing around that JSTL is so great in so many aspects (e.g. faster for development and faster execution)as if it were fact when it is mostly opinion (or future release fact). He never says, "IMO, JSTL is really good ..." it is always "JSTL IS the greatest ...". All because an alpha product (tomcat) optimizes some JSTL tags doesn't mean it is faster for execution (people take that as everywhere everytime). Any container vendor could make whatever they want optimized (if they really wanted to). If you read my previous posts you see how everything that David said which made JSTL so great could also be said for scriptlets and as I said, that doesn't mean that scriptlets should be used. The only come back anyone could say was that JSTL IS optimized (leaving out that it is only in alpha tomcat, partly). I agree that JSTL has many good parts but to act like it is perfect and so great and exaggerate its current capabilities is just one sided. It is like brainwashing. And that is sad. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Raeburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:41 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: very simple if/else question Dude, did you bother to look at the links David gave you? Or ask on the correct mailing list? Or even do some research yourself? Google. Fifth link down. JSTL reference. Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: August 13, 2003 2:50 PM > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > Subject: RE: very simple if/else question > > > > OK, let's vote. Who here thinks that Ace Graham is correct in saying that > these links are as easy to use as a reference (which is what I requested > since I understand the concept of tags in general and I only need a quick > reference): > > http://java.sun.com/webservices/docs/1.0/tutorial/doc/JSTL.html > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&fi > eld-keywor > ds=jstl&search-type=ss&bq=1/002-7447468-3651265 > > http://www.google.com/search?q=jstl&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > > VS. > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/struts-logic.html > > > I am not talking about the tags themselves right now as to which > better but > as to which links, the set above or the last one, is better in a reference > situation. Get your stop watches out and see how fast you can know the > attributes for any given Struts tags vs. any given JSTL. Ready go. > > I understand there is documentation out there for JSTL that is not the > point. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:29 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: very simple if/else question > > --- "Bailey, Shane C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Why isn't there a page for JSTL reference that is as nice and easy to > > use > > as: > > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/struts-logic.html ??? > > > > You would be much closer to substantiating your claim of JSTL being > > faster > > to develop with if such a page existed, Ace. > > http://java.sun.com/webservices/docs/1.0/tutorial/doc/JSTL.html > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&fi > eld-keywor > ds=jstl&search-type=ss&bq=1/002-7447468-3651265 > > http://www.google.com/search?q=jstl&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > David > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:41 PM > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > Subject: RE: very simple if/else question > > > > --- "Slattery, Tim - BLS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > <c:choose> > > > > <c:when test="${Fund.marketStatus != Kapaly}"> > > > > > > What are these <c: ...> tags? What do I have to have installed in > > order > > > to > > > use them? > > > > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jstl/index.html > > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/standard-doc/intro.html > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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