Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;)
Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Micael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified > This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to > this stuff. > > At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: > > >Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or > >JBOSS, > >I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write > >applications > >using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. > > > >>From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 > >> > >> > >>There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 > >>wasn't j2ee compliant ? > >> > >>>From: "Brian Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>>Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 > >>> > >>>The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you > >>>can tell your clients "My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x > >>>is not. Who knows what it will do?" > >>> > >>>Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back > >>>when IBM didn't certify their app server? > >>> > >>>In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current > >>>clients is verifying a couple of their major products. > >>> > >>>BAL > >>> > >>>>From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>>>Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 > >>>> > >>>>what is the point of verified application ? > >>>>Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the > >>>>j2ee bundle > >>>>from java.sun.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>From: "Brian Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>>>>Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 > >>>>> > >>>>>They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to > >>>>>verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for > >>>>>each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support > >>>>>during the verification process. > >>>>> > >>>>>It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your > >>>>>verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a > >>>>>sun verified product. > >>>>> > >>>>>BAL > >>>>> > >>>>>>From: "Bill Chmura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>>>>>Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. > >>>>>>Maybe you can claim your app passed in the "free trial version" :) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> > From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM > >>>>>> > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > >>>>>> > Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the > >>>>>> > thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products > >>>>>> > are j2ee verified ( > >>>>>> > http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. > >>>>>> > Never heard of a web application getting certified which > >>>>>> > was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are > >>>>>> > lurking in here. :) > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Thanks for the responses. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Amin > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> > From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM > >>>>>> > To: Struts Users Mailing List > >>>>>> > Subject: Re: J2EE certified > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 > >>>>>> > grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation > >>>>>> > for my j2ee app. > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: > >>>>>> > > http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>> > >>From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM > >>>>>> > >>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > >>>>>> > >>Subject: OT: J2EE certified > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for > >>>>>> > >>a J2EE web > >>>>>> > >>app? > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>Struts question, > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's > >>>>>> > the Servlet > >>>>>> > >>action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? > >>>>>> > >>--------------------------- error > >>>>>> > ------------------------------------ > >>>>>> > >>javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error > >>>>>> > processing resource > >>>>>> > >>path > >>>>>> > >> at > >>>>>> > org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A > >>>>>> > >>ctionServl > >>>>>> > >>et.java:1035) > >>>>>> > >> at > >>>>>> > >>org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A > >>>>>> > >>ctionServl > >>>>>> > >>et.java:1014) > >>>>>> > >> at > >>>>>> > >>org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action > >>>>>> > >>Servlet.ja > >>>>>> > >>va:955) > >>>>>> > >> at > >>>>>> > >>org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet. > >>>>>> > java:470) > >>>>>> > >> at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) > >>>>>> > >>------------------------- snip > >>>>>> > ------------------------------------- > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>Amin > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>> > >>From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM > >>>>>> > >>To: Struts Users Mailing List > >>>>>> > >>Subject: Re: J2EE certified > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. > >>>>>> > >>JMS, EJB, XML > >>>>>> > >>processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. > >>>>>> > just to begin > >>>>>> > >>with. > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> > >>From: "Mohd Amin Mohd Din" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> > >>To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>> > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM > >>>>>> > >>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>>Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>my app using > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>>Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>certified web > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>>app. > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>Plus, not all question on the list are about struts > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>> > >>>From: Shane Mingins > >>>>>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM > >>>>>> > >>>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > >>>>>> > >>>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>So where's the Struts question? > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>> > >>>From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. > >>>>>> > >>>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' > >>>>>> > >>>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>I meant getting a web application certified > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>> > >>>From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM > >>>>>> > >>>To: Struts Users Mailing List > >>>>>> > >>>Subject: RE: J2EE certified > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>Amin > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>Developer), > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>>its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have > >>>>>> > >>>JCP to take this exam. > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>Raghu > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>> > >>>From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM > >>>>>> > >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>Subject: J2EE certified > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>certified. I > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>>could only find getting an application server certified not the > >>>>>> > >>>application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>certified > >>>>>> > >>or > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>>is there a certification for Java web apps? > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>Amin > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>---------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> > ----------- > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>---------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> > ----------- > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>---------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> > ----------- > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>---------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> > ----------- > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>---------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> > ----------- > >>>>>> > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >>---------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> > ----------- > >>>>>> > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>> > --------- > >>>>>> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > >>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > -- > >>>>>> > struts 1.1 + tomcat 4.1.27 + java 1.4.2 > >>>>>> > Linux 2.4.20 RH9 > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>> > --------- > >>>>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>> > --------- > >>>>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> > >>>>>_________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. 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