Smelly heretic! Don't you dare oppress me! The Fowlerians shall smite the wicked Gammalons for all eternity!
-= J > -----Original Message----- > From: Emerson Cargnin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 2:14 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: J2EE IDE > > > Erich Gamma is one for eclipse leaders, does this means > anything for you. > > James Childers wrote: > > Here, friends and neighbors, is an example of the "appeal > to authority" fallacy: > > > > In "Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture", > Martin Fowler specifically commends IDEA. If he uses it, so > should you. > > > > -= J > > > > p.s. I use Eclipse & vim. > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:47 AM > >>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >>Subject: RE: J2EE IDE > >> > >> > >>I would have said netbeans a year ago, but now I'm an eclipse > >>2 (2.1) fan. > >>Haven't tried any recent (last 6 months) IDEs other than eclipse. > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Greg Reddin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:09 AM > >>To: Struts Users Mailing List > >>Subject: Re: J2EE IDE > >> > >>+1 on NetBeans although I've not used Eclipse. I tend to > >>stop looking > >>when I find something that works. > >> > >>However, I find that 90% of the time it's quicker for me to > >>just use vi > >>and Ant. I use NetBeans for debugging though. And if I'm > >>forced to use > >>Windows for my development I'll immediately install NetBeans. > >> > >>Greg > >> > >>Mick Wever wrote: > >> > >>>Looks like another IDE war coming on :-) > >>> > >>>You need to check out them out yourself. > >>>As you will no doubt soon see, > >>>each of us have different likes and requirements. > >>> > >>>NetBeans is known for its outstanding > >>>GUI (Form) editor and JSP editing. > >>>It also has excellent support for CVS and Ant integration. > >>>While Eclipse is very good at refactoring. > >>> > >>>I prefer to use NetBeans as it suits more for the power user. > >>>You can change just about anything under its hood from > >> > >>within the IDE. > >> > >>>At my new job they were all using JDeveloper, a commercial > >> > >>product, and > >> > >>>it only took me 3 weeks to convert all of them to NetBeans. > >>>NetBeans now has some nice features in it's suggestion module > >>>that will automatically fix code for you, examples are: > >>> - missing javadoc tags, > >>> - missing import statements, > >>> - missing object castings, > >>> - and more... > >>>I find it just heaven when an IDE fixes your code for you > >> > >>before you have > >> > >>>even compiled it. > >>>I don't like Eclipse because it is not all written in java. It is > >>>written in a mixture of languages and therefore cannot run on all > >>>platforms. You also cannot use the different Look&Feels > >> > >>that are out there > >> > >>>for java. > >>> > >>>Eclipse is also very short on features compared to NetBeans. > >>>This abundance of features can (naturally) slow it down, > >> > >>make sure to turn > >> > >>>off all the features you won't be using after you have > >> > >>given them a test > >> > >>>run. > >>> > >>>Again, find out your requirements, and try them all out :) > >>>Mick. > >> > >> > >> > >>DISCLAIMER: > >>This email message is for the sole use of the intended > >>recipient(s) and may > >>contain confidential and privileged information. Any > >>unauthorized review, > >>use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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