The management is not bad here (actually their damn good compared to most places), just not very keen on forking out the dosh unless its absolutely necessary. Unfortunately we are a small company and not some cashed up behemoth than can play at being a sheltered workshop, so while I like to whinge and moan its not really like theres much choice. If we want to ship the product on time and make the sales then the only way is through hard work and long hours. If we dont then its game over already as some other company will step up to put in the hard yards and get the deals instead... :-(
To be honest Id die of boredom in a 925 job with no stress... ;-> As for that article: <snip> programmers making $70,000 a year </snip> 70k US? For a programmer? What a joke! Little wonder all those jobs are going overseas... You could get 3 or 4 of us for that price (and we work twice the hours (and hence have twice the experience imho)) and probably a good 30 skilled programmers in Chennai (who from what Ive heard work even longer hours). -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2003 04:04 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] M7 Development tool Perhaps you would be interested in reading "Union Now?" by Warren Keuffel at http://www.sdmagazine.com/ or read the print version of the October issue. Bad Managment makes workers Unionize. "Andrew Hill" <andrew.david.hil [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To "Struts Users Mailing List" 09/17/03 02:42 PM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc Please respond to Subject "Struts Users RE: [OT] M7 Development tool Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] rta.apache.org> ouch! Why the smeg does every damn tool have to cost several months salary? Cant see mgmt springing for it then when they can just have us work till 4 or 5 am every day week atfer week in a row. :-( Oh well. thank God (or IBM at least) for Eclipse and extra thanks to the struts team without whose most excellent framework Id be doing <OutOfBoundsException> hours a day instead of a mere 18 or so... -----Original Message----- From: Barry Volpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2003 03:34 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] M7 Development tool cool but a few thousand dollars! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:15 PM Subject: RE: [OT] M7 Development tool > Thanks :-) > > <snip> > M7 lets you develop web applications in record time by assembling > applications visually from existing database schemas, Java components and > web services > </snip> > > Funny how the words "record time" stand out when one is reading them at 3:30 > AM ;-> > I reckon I'll have to check this out when I get time. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2003 03:11 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: [OT] M7 Development tool > > > > > > > > Andrew: > > Sorry about not including the URL http://www.m7.com/ > > It is an IDE with repository, workflow designer and other stuff. Will know > more after I go through the tutorial. I guess that it could be considered > a CASE tool from what I have seen so far. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
