So you clarify.
Why not on MVC mail list, but here?
Oh well.

Srinivas Gunturu wrote:

I agree, it was an honest mistake. But, here are a few reasons

1. Registration was done on 8/27/2003, and I get a welcome email today
2. Registration confirmation email had just one line with no reference to MVC-Programmers in it. Hence I didn't find any reference in my mail box when I did a search on MVC Programmers
3. Email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as per instructions with "help" in subject didn't work. I still haven't got any response.
4. I never sent a confirmation email to my subscription as per the "one line" registration email. If so, I should have never got any welcome email nor I should be a member of this list.


All these are clear indications to consider emails that are showing up after 40+ days of my "unconfirmed" regsitration as SPAM.


Andrew Hill wrote:
<snip>
ANYONE can sign up and sign out right on the home page as you can.
</snip>

Oh?

<snip>
Export Restrictions:
This list is not for users in Asia (Excluding Japan), Middle East,
Indonesia, Philippines and Africa.
</snip>


Seams you did get a registration e-mail? Good!



Unless they are in Asia (etc...) it seems. (btw you spelt "New Zealand"
wrong.)
Thanks!



well... Im in Asia. ooo naughty naughty. Why Asia cannot? Please explain.


Me back down? :-)
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/biztech/10/04/india.jobs.reut/index.html
Read above, out today. It's not a balanced eco-system, and I am a libertarian (help myself).
My cost of doing business are high in the West( insurance: health, workers-comp, taxes: state, federal, local re-estate tax; cost of compliance: I have to file forms/payments in 7 states I do business in quarterly; and bureaucrats have no end on entitlements; +cost of litigation, etc)
So while they (Asian companies) can sell software here, I can't sell there ( compare to business friendly, low taxes, high education in Asia; as well as a bit less of IP culture, I can't sell bP there; nor are others able to sell software there, more than one copy).


There are many export restriction for software, bP is one. So I am OK with export restriction on my IP/designs. (some cultures call copying IP as "research". Should bureaucrats make West more competive, and IP culture evolves in Asia, I will reconsider. Oh, I am anti protectisam (protectionisam cuased '29 I learned in school-but not spelling :-( ), I just want a chance to compete even, and be able to sell what I work for, so I can pay my bills/taxes).


.V



...mind you Im pretty sure I *didnt* sign up. The mails just started turning up one day. Perhaps the aforementioned "ANYONE" signed me up, or maybe it was me after all(?), but I sure as heck dont remember doing it!



-----Original Message-----
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vic Cekvenich
Sent: Monday, 6 October 2003 22:43
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MVC-Programmers mailing list


I went a looked up that on 8/27/2003 a user id "gunturss" registered using BJC.org domain (domain from 4353 Clayton Ave. Suite 212, St Louis) on the home page of baseBeans.com (clicked join), checking in on the * open source Struts based basicPortal *. (The record was stuck on registration for some reason)

Please do not libel anyone. ANYONE can sign up and sign out right on the
home page as you can. (No I did not sign you out. You might have
problems signgin out if you forward your e-mail, but here is the link to
go out (look at bottom of this page)
http://www.basebeans.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/mvc-programmers )

Do you see how every post has the above link, ex:
http://www.mail-archive.com/mvc-programmers%40basebeans.net/msg00439.html
? So you can't miss it. (Every now and then larger lists (2000 on MVC)
have people how join newly and do not know how their mails get forwarded).

Shame less plug:
News.baseBeans.com hosts Struts mail list, JDOM mail list, C# mail list,
  Hibreante, ibatis, etc. ... for FREE! (and no you do not need to sign
up if you have a news reader. There are about 18 news groups for
experienced developers, some not available elsewhere). I just released a
new build yesterday of bP.

Since baseBeans  bP is open source, you can see example good practices,
such as:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/basicportal/bPproj/bP/WEB-INF/pgs/foru
ms/ArticleLst.jsp
This example uses my favorite tag, display tag, with pagination (via
iBatis & pgSQL select/limit clause) together with calendar tag (by Matt
K.) submitting a struts form bean for a paginated search via a pop up
calendar date.

So the list in question is where you can find things like this!

.V




Srinivas Gunturu wrote:



This is not related to struts but is related to this list group.

Has any one else in the group got a subscription confirmation from

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ? I have never heard of this news group before and I have never asked for any subscription. Even if some one did submit my id, I would have expected a confirmation email before my subscription bacame active.

I have also sent an email to unsubscribe instructions email and haven't

heard back. Was wondering any one else in this list got spammed or is it just me?



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