Steve Raeburn wrote:

'In fact, we'd particularly invite Struts advocates to respond to this
article by describing the benefits that they feel Struts provides over
"vanilla" JSP.'

Well if they don't get what Struts provides over "vanilla" JSP, then they
never will. Discussing what Struts provides compared to other MVC frameworks
might be useful, but the "vanilla" JSP topic is surely dead and buried by
now.

I guess it's a sign of success when people who obviously know nothing about
Struts start taking swipes at it :-)


Over the years, Struts has been simultaneously knocked for being "too simple" and "too hard", "not enough functionality" and "way too complicated", "ugly as sin" and "beautifully architected", ... considering that my original target was the 80% of users in the middle, I count the fact that we get criticisms from both ends as a success metric.

Steve

Craig




-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: October 7, 2003 9:07 AM
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a bunch of postings, including the article, by a bunch of un/mis-informed evangelists (for all technologies mentioned). it's like state fair day at /. can i get my 20mins back ?

-- adam



From: "Yann Cébron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 17:30:02 +0200

Read for yourself and judge:

http://www.softwarereality.com/soapbox/softwarefashion.jsp




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