I reckon you should try to read the source code of a good open source
j2ee app. Furthermore, J2EE is big - there's a lot of stuff you could
use. 
I would recommend sticking to standards. Struts is good for this, so why

not look at the struts examples that come with the struts download.
Another large part of J2EE is ejb etc. There is quite a lot to learn
there, so a good example of a project that puts it all together is 

http://sourceforge.net/projects/xpetstore

This uses more standards that you'll probably have to learn,

For example

Ant - your project build system
Junit - for testing
Xdoclet - for code generation
Struts - for your web mvc part

Learning all these by reading how someone else did it is far, far easier
than trying yourself from scratch.

Hth,
Brian


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 October 2003 14:07
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Slightly OT] Where/how to start?

and you may want to subscribe to other lists that are more J2EE-centric,
like [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholson, Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:53 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Slightly OT] Where/how to start?


Here's what I did at my last job: I was mostly a C, JAM, Oracle
developer
but wanted to learn Java and J2EE. Try to find an approach that will let
you
learn J2EE while benefiting the company in some way.

Let your managers know that you want to learn the technology. They'll
know
that you aren't content just doing the same old thing every day, and
they
might start to look for training opportunities, whether it is sending
you to
class or putting you on newer J2EE projects.

Another way is to take a few hours each week learning a new technology
and
incorporating that into some sort of prototype that your company might
be
interested in. Take an existing application and prototype a Java/J2EE
version of it. Show it off to your managers, then move on and do some
more
prototypes. Even if it doesn't go into production, you have built real
applications in a real work environment.



-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Engle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 6:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Slightly OT] Where/how to start?


Hi all,

I have a strong Perl/CGI background, but my JSP/Servlet/J2EE experience
is related only to what I did in college. My job entails C development,
but I really want to get more into this J2EE stuff.  It's so much more
enjoyable than this C work I am doing, but I can't seem to get my foot
in the door.  In looking for a J2EE development job, I keep hearing
that I need more experience, which is perfectly understandable.   But,
I can't get experience without getting a job doing it first.  My
question is, how do I get my foot in the door so I can split my boring
job and do what I really want to do?  Do I need to go full tilt and get
a certification or something like that?  Any ideas would be most
helpful.  Even more helpful would be a J2EE job in the Chicago area
where I could develop my professional career in this area.

Thanks very much!


Best Regards,
Andy


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