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> Do you have any recommendation for reducing this testing time for Web pages that include JSP tags ?
I’m using Eclipse for coding JSP’s (I mean here HTML pages that include JSP tags, no tag libraries). In order to test the visual aspects of my JSP’s, I then build a war archive and deploy it to my web container. Nothing original here.

Above is what I do when I tag a CVS release about once a week.
But.. for day to day devlopment, I edit JSP and actions live.
I point my Resin and Tomcat configuration for document root to where my eclipse project files are, which are structured in a war like directories.
As soon as I change a JSP I can refresh a page and see it.
As soon as I change a anction or a formbean, I can refresh the page in Resin and see it. (Tomcat has a Eclipse plug in, but requires a restart and a patch to server.xml not to complain about session formbeans, which takes about 5 seconds as opposed to Resin, which is instant. Just saving in Eclipse auto compiles and Resin can tell a class file changed, and reloads the class).



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testing time is rather long. And I really get fed up with this now.

Before I even start development, I make sure that ALL the forms (html pages) reports and outputs are mocked up in HTML. (no need to start writing formbean before we know what the client wants).
Once that is done, I just write struts mappings to those html files, and a simple action and a formbean (since now I know the proerites) so I have a prototype based on the mock up.
Note how I have the UI done 1st before construction. The UI developers can use any HTML tool they like. FrontPage, DreamWeaver, Vi.... I do not care, but I do know once they mock it up I can make it a prototype.
*I just don't code utill I have requirments. *
Since there is a mock up and a prototype, changes to formbeans and actions are minimal, the navigation is lready decided by the client.
And last phase is DAO, which is not a problem, I can do any SQL join they want to see.


(Some people code backwards, they look at data they have in tables, and they show those records to the client. How this aproach ties into requirments I have no idea, so client makes them go back to mess with each page over and over. Why they just don't use a formBean for what it's meant for- and interface- I have no idea. See- formal training helps.)


Therefore I’m wondering f there is a ** magic ** tool that would allow me to code a web page that includes JSP tags in a VISUAL environment (like MS FrontPage does for HTML for instance). The idea here would be to be able to include JSP tags in a VISUAL manner (such as a <html:text> for instance) in order to actually seeA CODING TIME the result on the screen BEFORE actual deployment in the container.


Does such a tool exist ?

Camino, M7, ExaStruts Studio, etc. Most are linked of the baseBeans cheat sheet page (but I am in the middle of redoing the site).
But... I think Java developers like me, should do Java, and let UI developers use any UI tool they like.
I do not know fonts, collors, spaceing, etc.


.V





Fred



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