sure i agree .. but I've been wanting to dick around with alternatives to storing in the session for a while (since the request vs session debate). and just wondered if anyone had tried read/writing to a flat file as an alternative.

Additionally I think that sessions are stored in this way anyway so might be a waste of time. But then I imagine that session objects are loaded into memory where using an old school read-write to a flat file might be less greedy.

guess its dog food time.

On 26 Feb 2004, at 15:42, Paul McCulloch wrote:

My intuitive response would be that I'd use ram freely and let the O/S worry
about paging stuff to disk if it runs out of physical memory. I'd *guess*
that the O/S can use disk for paging significantly faster than a Java
programmer can via the JVM & the O/S.


I think that you'd have to run some pretty exhaustive tests in an
environment close to your production one to determine which method is more
efficient.


Personally I'd just spend the money on a bit more ram instead of developer
time...


Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 February 2004 13:24
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: need help converting from session to request scope


Niall


Any opinions on read and writing to flat files to avoid
additional ram
use? Or you reckon that the reading and writing would consume similar
amounts of ram? I'll get around to trying it when i get a moment.

On 26 Feb 2004, at 14:04, Niall Pemberton wrote:

Given your scenario, it sounds like a good candidate for a session
scoped
form.

I agree with what Mark Lowe said - usually/often "...theres no more
work
invloved scoping to request" - thats been the case for my
app. I would
also
do what you said in a previous post - which is "clean up"
the session
stuff
when they navigate away to another part of the app.

I'm in the "do it in request unless you have good reason(s)
to use the
session" camp - rather than the "anti-session" camp as it may have
appeared
in previous threads.

Niall

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McCulloch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 4:13 PM
Subject: RE: need help converting from session to request scope


My application has an Asset search form. The user can enter many
criteria
to
search on.

Most of these criteria themselves are looked up from the database
(e.g the
Person associated with the Asset search). When the user selects a
search
criteria (e.g. the Person) I store the DTO for that person on my
search
form. The view element displays details about that Person on the
search
form
until the search form is cleared.

Many requests will be made to find the criteria before the Asset
search
itself is performed.

To do this using a request scope form would require that I
transfer
all of
the details I want to display about that person in hidden
inputs on
the
form. If the details I want to display about a Person
change then I'd
also
need to change the hidden fields. In addition once I ship the
application
to
my customers they may have their own JSP developer show extra
prpoerties
of
the selected Person.

So, that's my justification for using session scoped form
beans. Any
comments gratefully recieved.

Paul




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