Having your JSP built using tiles, each (if necessary) having its own dynamic Tileaction is excellent. It offers so much flexibility, especially when its combined with JSTL.
The only gripe I have is with JSTL and not having the ability to get map sizes. Its easy to code around this, but it would have been nice out of the box :P If you ask the JSP or velocity question on a list that has a good mix of both sets of users, then you are going to get a few biased opinions for either side. Try and figure out the requirements of what you want your application to do and would like it to be able to do in the future. Then see if either does not or, is unable to offer this feature list. That should make your decision a bit easier. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 February 2004 12:59 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [OT] JSP or Velocity Havent used velocity myself , but from what Ive seen it is very good. (Theres also a very good introduction for newbies in Teds "Struts in Action" book where hes given a chapter to using velocity with Struts) That said, if you learn JSP its probably a much more portable skillset that will stand you in good stead for future projects and jobs, and theres a lot of freely available taglibs out there you can utilise. Much more support on the list too for any problems you may come across, and of course theres the Tiles stuff which (again Ive not used!) is really very very cool and powerful! My own personal opinion of JSP otoh is rather low. I just dont like the whole 'vibe' of it! Suffice it to say Im not a big fan of serial rendering mechanisms - especially where the page layout and rendering instructions are combined in the same file - and also much prefer a mechanism where I can render to any part of the view at any part of my rendering process (Im using a homebrew library for this that revolves around using a tree of decorator classes to modify xhtml DOM templates - there are some open source libraries for DOM based rendering available too such as XMLC which you might want to look at if you have time). Of course that power comes at a cost in terms of performance and memory usage, but for the type of apps Im working on its not really an issue. But weighing up the arguments for your case, Id say the best advice I can give is that nobody got sacked for choosing JSP and its the one with the most mindshare despite its flaws, so you wont go wrong going with it for your project even if it can be a pain to work with sometimes! -----Original Message----- From: A.White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 27 February 2004 20:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] JSP or Velocity Howdy I am starting to develop an application using struts and have been looking round the rest of the Jakarta project and came across the Velocity project. I was interested to see which which people recommended for a relative newbie Cheers Andrew --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *********************************************** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the above named recipient only. If this has come to you in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must take no action based on this, nor must you copy or disclose it or any part of its contents to any person or organisation. Statements and opinions contained in this email may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods. Please note that e-mail communications may be monitored. The registered office of Littlewoods Limited and its subsidiaries is 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB. Registered number of Littlewoods Limited is 262152. ************************************************ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
