I think I found another bug on cylinder management. I downloaded three multi cylinder dives and I got again a phanthom default cylinder not shoving based on my edit/fill sequence. I corrupted the logbook on two of them :(
I'll report soon the wrong sequence. I hope fix #622 will solve this. Bye 2014-07-14 14:35 GMT+02:00 Miika Turkia <[email protected]>: > The "unknown" cylinder is implicitly used, as it is considered to be the > gas you started the dive with. If you want to get rid of that, you will > have to create a gas change event to one of the new cylinders at the > beginning of the dive. Then the first gas is considered to be the new one > and not the 'unknown' and the 'unknown' can be removed. There is no gas > change event displayed for the first gas of the dive (unless manually > added), so it is a bit hard to grasp the "concept". I suggest setting the > first gas change somewhere between 0 and 10 seconds from the start of the > dive. If you set it before the dive started, then it won't work. I agree > that the user interface is not very good for this... > > miika > > > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Davide DB <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Miika, >> >> Thank you for the reply but despite of the fact that everybody continue >> repeating me that I can not delete a cylinder that is in use the logic >> behind the cylinder is obscure to me. >> I tried several times with no luck. >> >> From an end user POV: >> >> I haven't single gas dives. Imagine I have a dive with D8,5 filled with >> 30/30 and Al40 with 100%. >> >> #1 I download a dive and if I have no default bottle, that equipment tab >> is not empty, it contains a unknown type bottle. >> #2 I download a dive and if I have a default bottle, that equipment tab >> is filled with that. >> >> In the case #1 instead to modify the "unkonwn" cylinder, I add that two >> cylinders: D8,5 & Al40. >> After this I cannot delete anymore the "unknown" cylinder because it's in >> use. >> By who? >> I tried to add a gas switch to 100% but >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-07-14 13:31 GMT+02:00 Miika Turkia <[email protected]>: >> >> You can not delete a cylinder that is in use. As you said, you used 21/35 >>> and 50%, these both cylinders are shown on the equipment properly as they >>> were used during the dive. >>> >>> However, the dive info tab is buggy. There is clearly a bug in there >>> when diving with multiple cylinders and multiple dive computers. The 21/35 >>> is missing from there. >>> >>> To test this, I deleted manually the second dive computer from the XML >>> file and now the dive info tab shows gas consumption for both gases as >>> shown in the attached screenshot. I am still wondering if this is correct >>> as the SAC is unbelievable low, but it does reflect to the start and end >>> pressures shown on equipment tab. >>> >>> miika >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Davide DB <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Dirk, >>>> Did you check the xml I sent? >>>> >>>> Again, how I can remove a bottle from the bottle panel? >>>> Should I add a fake gas change? As end user this part It's really a >>>> nightmare and I don't get useful info from the manual. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2014-07-10 17:10 GMT+02:00 Davide DB <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> Hi Dirk, >>>>> >>>>> I think I understood: while I was copying the entire dive I realized >>>>> this dive has two profiles with two computers in it. >>>>> Very strange. The only way I could imagine this mix is: >>>>> I imported this dive from my buddy computer. >>>>> Later I download other dives from my suunto and I had on it the same >>>>> dive... >>>>> >>>>> Attached the xml file and two screenshot of what I see. Basically I >>>>> used a 21/35 and 50% for deco but on the dive info I see only the EAN50 >>>>> but >>>>> I see 0 liter for the phantom 21/35. >>>>> >>>>> [image: Immagine in linea 1] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Immagine in linea 2] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2014-07-10 16:57 GMT+02:00 Dirk Hohndel <[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:08:32PM +0200, Davide DB wrote: >>>>>> > I downgraded to 4.1 and gas mix is still not there. >>>>>> > I took some backups but again gas mix for this dive is still not >>>>>> there. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I tried to compare xml files but I d not see obvious >>>>>> differences/errors. >>>>>> > Any idea why I'm getting this? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Thank you in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think I got lost in this somewhere. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you attach the XML for one dive that shows the problem. Describe >>>>>> what >>>>>> you expect to see (and why) and what you are seeing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> /D >>>>>> >>>>>> > 2014-07-09 16:16 GMT+02:00 Davide DB <[email protected]>: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > Images? >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > I got backups. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > This is what I see on this dive: >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > two tanks and gas used. One gas switch but a phantom gas with no >>>>>> name e >>>>>> > > zero gas used. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > 2014-07-09 16:02 GMT+02:00 Dirk Hohndel <[email protected]>: >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 04:24:36PM +0300, Miika Turkia wrote: >>>>>> > >> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Davide DB <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > > Can I downgrade from 4.1.379 to official 4.1 without braking >>>>>> my >>>>>> > >> logbook? >>>>>> > >> > > I just realized that some dives have correct bottle info >>>>>> saved but >>>>>> > >> CAS and >>>>>> > >> > > gas used doesn't appear on the information panel. >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> > >> > Should work fine. Of course, when using development versions, >>>>>> you should >>>>>> > >> > keep a backup (or version control) of your log file. But I >>>>>> have not >>>>>> > >> noticed >>>>>> > >> > any problems when mixing use of 4.1 and devel versions. >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Picture support has changed (but Subsurface ignores tags it >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> > >> understand). So if you stored pictures with the development >>>>>> version, you >>>>>> > >> won't see them in 4.1 and after storing the file again with 4.1 >>>>>> they will >>>>>> > >> be lost. >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> In general I can only stress what Miika said - make backups >>>>>> BEFORE using >>>>>> > >> development versions and have a close eye on changes to the XML >>>>>> file. We >>>>>> > >> have been known to seriously break things and to lose >>>>>> information in dive >>>>>> > >> files. We obviously try no to, but it does happen. >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> /D >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > -- >>>>>> > > Davide >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Davide >>>>>> >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > subsurface mailing list >>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>> > http://lists.hohndel.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Davide >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Davide >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> subsurface mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.hohndel.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Davide >> > > -- Davide
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