On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Rick Walsh <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Sergey, > > On 15 October 2015 at 23:46, Sergey Starosek <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> See attached image. With this approach: >> >> new planner options may be easily added to the left panel, which is >> scrollable >> sections on the left may be collapsible >> layout seems to be more suitable for lower screen resolutions >> >> What do you think? > > Thank you for looking at this. I think a lot could be done to improve the > layout of the planner, and right now, at the start of a release cycle is a > good time to discuss what we should do. > > One thing to consider, is what it would look like on other people's systems. > Being entirely selfish, I've attached a screenshot of what the planner looks > like for me, and my 1366x768 laptop display. > > Currently, the planner layout does not suit it very well. In the attached > screenshot, you can see that if I size the gas and planner point tables to > see all the rows, I can only display half the preferences, and the first few > lines of the plan details. I'm keen to test it on my system, but I think > your proposal would be an improvement for me if I shrink the profile plot > frame, which is completely fine. > > Other improvements I think could be gained, especially for people with > short/small displays, by: > > Reduce cell padding, in gas and waypoint tables (actually all tables in > Subsurface) > Possibly reduce font size in tables > Possibly reduce font size in dive plan details / dive log notes > Get rid of 'Rates' heading in planner preferences, replace 'ascent' with > 'ascent rates', 'descent' with 'descent rate' > De-link planner frame sizes from the usual Subsurface display (i.e. when > showing dive log table, dive details, dive profile, Marble map), so there's > no need to resize everything every time the planner is opened or closed. I > think your proposal implies this because the layout is different. >
I think that we should completely change approach: Our first question should be: - Of 100 setting I have in the current planner windows, how many of them I change every time I use the planner? II should then write down a list of settings in three separate columns/category (maybe two): - Every time - Often - Never Afterwards I will move the (never/once in a blue moon) lit of settings in the preference tab. Just one example: ascent/descent rate groups would be the first one to be fired (perfect candidate to be moved in a preference tab). Seriously how many times do you change them? NEVER: once set as your preference they stay there for a lifetime. Second candidate: the whole gas option group. Subsurface planner should not be designed for academic purposes but for real divers. Nobody change every week the bottom pO2!!! So why I should have this widget in front of me every run? Another good suggestion would be to just look at other seasoned planner UI out there: 100% of them have the above settings buried in a preference tab. All tables should be collapsible as all modern UI: gas set should be just prefs again. Nowadays 90% of tech divers use standard gases so there's room for some helpful default. But again, sometimes looking at what is already done by others is enough. Truth is out there [cit.] Byeeee -- Davide https://vimeo.com/bocio/videos _______________________________________________ subsurface mailing list [email protected] http://lists.subsurface-divelog.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface
