On 08/01/2017 12:27, Robert Helling wrote:
Hi,

On 07 Jan 2017, at 22:43, Rick Walsh <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm interested in hearing Robert's feedback on your suggestion, but would be happy to implement it when I get a chance (and that's been far too rarely lately) after 4.6 is out.

my concerns are pretty much the same: The planner already has almost too many parameters to configure. Not concentrating on the essentials has a real price in usability.

So adding two more parameters (problem solving time and emergency SAC or whatever you might call those) needs to be justified by the benefit. I am not going to add those for everybody just to please a single user. But if one can make the case that it benefits most users (in the sense of they care about the resulting information) then we should have those. I have done some googling on „Rock bottom gas“ and almost everybody has their own idea how to exactly calculate that. But indeed, the two parameter model fits many. So it might be something for 4.7. But I would love to have some more user input.

Best
Robert
The rock-bottom approach is sensible in a recreational environment because it provides an explicit framework to think seriously about gas planning which few recreational divers do. I am not sure which training agency(s) uses this concept. In a technical/cave environment, most training agencies have their own ways of teaching explicit gas planning, with most using rule of thirds or rule of quarters. As indicated in the previous discussion, the situation becomes very complex when using deco gases and one wishes to use the rock-bottom concept (as well as additional planning for regulator failure of a deco cylinder) and the example calculation for a 60m dive in previous correspondence shows that this approach soon becomes unproductive within the technical diving context. I have been involved as a donor in two recreational OOG events and, fortunately, the gas consumption did not skyrocket. So rock-bottom pressure level is interesting to me, but I myself use the proven rules of the training agency where I got certified.
Kind regards,
willem

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