The cloud data is not mined, there is no cost, there are no ads, no one has access to your data with the exception of me, and I have never accessed any of those data without first getting explicit invitation to look by the owner (which usually happens when I'm trying to help someone recover lost data or when debugging an issue).
I seriously have no interest in where you dive, who you dive with, etc. But you are of course right - the only way the stock Android binary currently allows sharing of data is through our storage service. Now here's an interesting question to ask yourself. The binary that you run on your machine was most likely built by me (assuming you are on Windows or Mac or are using one of the other 25+ binaries that I create for each release). So unless you are indeed building Subsurface from source AND have read the sources and verified that it doesn't do anything nefarious... if I actually really cared about knowing your dive data... are you sure that Subsurface hasn't already sent that data to me? Of course it hasn't. Because I don't care. But I always find it interesting that people happily run my binaries on their system, but using the storage that I provide to them for free (btw: it costs me money to provide that storage) - no, that's too much of a privacy issue. Again - I really don't care if you use the cloud storage. It's just one of those things that I have always found strange... /D > On Jul 27, 2017, at 4:51 PM, John Griffiths <[email protected]> wrote: > > True. I have not. So the gist is the web service and the cloud server are > independent. > > In order to use Subsurface-mobile, I have upload all my dive data to a server. > > Or I can continue to use local storage and the companion app. > > I know there is no such thing as privacy anymore, but I like to maintain the > illusion. I store and backup on my own servers. Don't like putting more than > I absolutely have to on the Internet. > > Thanks for all the helpful discussion. > > Sent from my android device. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Miika Turkia <[email protected]> > To: John Griffiths <[email protected]> > Cc: Dirk Hohndel <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Sent: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 7:43 PM > Subject: Re: Subsurface-mobile > > Have you saved the dives to cloud from subsurface desktop? Sounds like you > might ne saving to local file only. > > On 27 Jul 2017, at 16.40, John Griffiths <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> I use Subsurface desktop to store my dives. >> >> When I log in following the link using the email and password, I get: >> >> Not Found >> >> The requested URL /user/[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>/dives.html was not found on this server. >> Apache/2.4.25 (Ubuntu) Server at cloud.subsurface-divelog.org >> <http://cloud.subsurface-divelog.org/> Port 443 >> >> John >> >> Sent from my android device. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dirk Hohndel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> To: John Griffiths <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Cc: [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 7:24 PM >> Subject: Re: Subsurface-mobile >> >> The Subsurface Storage Server and the webservice are completely unrelated. >> How are you storing the dives on your desktop? Can you see them when you log >> into https://cloud.subsurface-divelog.org >> <https://cloud.subsurface-divelog.org/> ? >> >> /D >> >> > On Jul 27, 2017, at 4:11 PM, John Griffiths <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > Help. >> > >> > I installed Subsurface-mobile. >> > >> > It asked for my email and password and then sent me a PIN. >> > >> > Problem is none of my dives are populated. >> > >> > When I first started using Subsurface, I got a user name / password and >> > a user ID. The user ID still works and retrieves my dives. >> > >> > I read the user manual on cloud credentials; no help. >> > >> > So how do I get the "Cloud" ( I hate that term. Why can we just call it >> > what it is; a server bank on the Internet?) and the web service that >> > uses the API connected. >> > >> > John >> > >> > >> > On 07/27/2017 03:21 PM, Dirk Hohndel wrote: >> >>> On Jul 27, 2017, at 12:20 PM, John Griffiths <[email protected] >> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> But for those that got the companion app when it was the only app, there >> >>> is no reason to go back to Google to see the warning. >> >> Very good point. >> >> >> >> /D >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> subsurface mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://lists.subsurface-divelog.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface >> <http://lists.subsurface-divelog.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface>
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