Please have bike shedding festivities about communication mechanisms in the 
Telegram group of your choice.

And please feel free to start a Telegram group for Subsurface. But please don't 
expect any of the main developers to ever show up there.

This development mailing list is and will be on email. If you would rather not 
be on email, that is certainly your choice.

Thanks

/D

> On Mar 7, 2020, at 1:33 AM, tormento via subsurface 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Unless you use a SECURE VPN, IP is included in the header or anyway traceable.
> 
> It’s more than enough to have some agency knocking at your door.
> 
> Il giorno sab 7 mar 2020 alle 10:30 Benjamin <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto:
> Email is not really personally identifiable. Anyone can use a given account 
> at any time. Telegram, Signal, WhatsApp and their ilk are all linked to a 
> telephone number. So that already limits who can use it concurrently. Which 
> means that fingers can be pointed at people more easily. Which tends to make 
> certain people slightly nervous ;)
> 
> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, 11:26 tormento via subsurface, 
> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Are you all really talking about crypto when emails travel as plain text? XD
> 
> Il giorno sab 7 mar 2020 alle 09:47 Benjamin <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto:
> The cryptography in Telegram has already been compromised, as seen in that 
> case in Brazil a short while ago. 
> 
> On Sat, 7 Mar 2020, 10:12 Robert C. Helling via subsurface, 
> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > Am 07.03.2020 um 00:06 schrieb tormento via subsurface 
> > <[email protected] 
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>:
> > 
> > Ever thought about creating a Telegram group?
> 
> Please don’t. Email as a mature technology is far superior to any messenger 
> in terms of archiving, searching, sorting and automated processing. 
> 
> Just my $.02
> Robert
> 
> Ps: wrt telegram: please convince yourself you can trust the people behind 
> telegram before relying on the cryptography they offer. 
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