On Sat, 9 Jan 2021 at 07:32, Dirk Hohndel via subsurface <
[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Jan 3, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Dirk Hohndel <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Jan 3, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Dirk Hohndel via subsurface <
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> Right, I didn't test the AppImage. Silly me. I'll add that to my list.
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> AppImage is fixed, also Subsurface now reacts more gracefully if the
> QtCharts QML modules can't be found.
> Instead of a crash the statistics chart is simply empty. What we really
> need is a reasonable error message (or alternative disable the statistics
> entry in the menu.
> But this is at least a step in the right direction.
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> New AppImage should appear in downloads/test in the next few minutes
> as Subsurface-v4.9.10-235-gc63994f77-x86_64.AppImage
> This one was tested on a couple of different Linux flavors...
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> So we have working binaries for all platforms, but we have heard basically
> no feedback on the new statistics feature.
> No indication that anyone has tested this, likes it, hates it, has
> suggestions.
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> It's really hard to develop in a vacuum. And it's a bit frustrating, too.
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> I know that guilt-tripping people into doing things simply doesn't work.
> Berthold, Willem, and I will continue to just work along.
> But we sure would appreciate some input. Even if it is just a simple "this
> is the best software ever written in the universe"...
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> [insert excuse about lack of time for diving and Subsurface]
I have just had a short play with the statistics with the latest daily
Windows build (subsurface-4.9.10-260-gbd26d8407f28.exe) and I must say this
looks great.  It is ridiculously easy to create meaningful (and
meaningless!) graphs of my dive data.  Thanks Berthold, Willem and Dirk for
going to so much effort to devise and implement this.

A few nitpicks/suggestions:
- When I select max or mean depth as a variable, the binning options are
'none', 'in 5 m steps', 'in 10 m steps' and 'in 10 m steps'.  The duplicate
entry should be removed
- As noted in other emails, the scattergraph trendline / linear regression
is frequently meaningless.  It would be good to add a check box to show or
hide the line (similar to the checkboxes for labels and legend for the
stacked bar charts).  I think this is probably simpler and more useful than
determining base on the R value (or similar) whether the fit is good enough
to make displaying the line worthwhile, but I have no objection to doing
both.  Displaying the R value could also be appreciated by a few people,
but others could find it annoying/confusing - if you do decide to do this,
please make it optional.
- When hovering over a group in the bar or pie charts, it would be nice if
the box that pops up lists the dives (especially when the list is short).
I have one dive with a SAC 68-70 l/min, and it'd be handy if the graph
showed when it was.  There are also 7 CCR dives in my log, which is odd
since I know I've never done a CCR dive.
- The variable of 'Buddies' seems to pick up both buddies and divemasters.
Apparently "Me" is one of my most common buddies (I'm not such an egomaniac
that I list myself as my own buddy, but I did list myself as the DM).
- An export / copy graph feature would be nice (but a low priority)

Other comments:
-  This is a great way to identify bodgy data.  As well as the bogus CCR
dives I mentioned about, it looks like I have one dive (under a pier) in
the 75-80 m range, and two dives with a water temperature of -17.8 deg C.
I know these are incorrect, and tied to issues downloading from my old dive
computer (addressed a few years ago by Jef, but it seems I neglected to
tidy up all of the incorrect data)
- The date (year) vs No. dives graph is depressing.

Thanks again,

Rick
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