Hi Dirk.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 1:35 PM Dirk Hohndel via subsurface
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Not being able to leave your house, a laptop and internet connection... ideal 
> conditions to keep dinking around with stuff :)

Sounds like the perfect weekend. :-P

> So this should now be the https://subsurface-divelog.org/latest-release/ page 
> - clearly showing that this is the Latest CICD Release.
>
> In addition, there is a https://subsurface-divelog.org/current-release/ 
> Current Release page. With the goal to iterate this more slowly - maybe once 
> a week. And, now that I had the time to figure out how this can work (see 
> above), this even links to a SIGNED macOS DMG.

Looking good!
I would probably add a link to the other page to the top of each page,
'if you want the latest version, go [here]' / 'if you want a more
stable version, go [here]', or else users will get locked in once they
have bookmarked one of the pages.
Also, I am wondering if the iOS paragraph should be above 'Linux' -
this will make it show above the fold for most users, and reduce the
number of users posting questions after not finding it.
And I am wondering if it would be better to use more distinguishable
names for the 'release tracks' than 'latest' / 'current' - I suspect
that users will confuse these when talking about them in support
posts. Maybe 'nightly' vs. 'weekly'?
>
> Finally, app signing.
> Given how painful macOS makes it to install unsigned apps, I think I'll need 
> to figure out how to sign at least the "weekly" builds. I doubt that I can 
> truly automate that, but maybe I can figure out a way to keep up with things.
>
>
> Done
>
> As for Windows - that's a harder problem. The signing mechanisms for Windows 
> are either prohibitively expensive (even with the generous donations from 
> some of you - we are talking around $300-500  a year plus hardware cost (as I 
> would need an actual real Windows machine for this -- apparently doing this 
> in a VM no longer works) for what is essentially a blessed random number. The 
> old system that was more affordable (~$100/year) has been killed by Microsoft 
> when they started making additional requirements (including allowing signing 
> certificates only when they are on hardware keys). And as  I mentioned 
> before, I'm seeing a lot more companies release unsigned apps for Windows 
> again.
> If a better and more realistically priced solution pops up, I'll happily 
> revisit this topic.
>
>
> Also, some googling and following countless broken links later... it appears 
> there is a not quite as expensive option:
>  https://cheapsslsecurity.com/fastssl/code-signing-certificate.html
>
> With the required hardware token, a three year certificate is about $500 with 
> shipping - so $170/yr. That is still a lot, but seems more doable.
> Now all I would need is a Windows PC 🤣
>
> So, question to the Windows users here... how often do you see unsigned apps? 
> How much of an issue is it to have the Subsurface installer not signed. As I 
> keep saying, I don't use Windows myself, so it's really hard to judge for 
> me...
>
> Thanks
>
> /D
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