Hi!!

Regarding my proposal for speech synthesis
http://wiki.sugarlbs.org/go/speech-synthesis

I want to suggest one very potential idea that can make the XO a
valuale thing for visually impared users.
The idea is to implement an icon reader. Basically we can provide a
keyboard key to the user (with some mark for feeling) which when user
presses, a sound telling him of the current status of the mouse cursor
will be produced.
Like if the cursor is on write activity then it will speak 'write
activity', if it is in home then it will speak 'Home' etc....

Well any suggestions about this idea and how it can be implemented.?


regards

chirag jain


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> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:47:48 -0400
> From: Luke Faraone <l...@faraone.cc>
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [math4] FourthGradeMath Digest, Vol 2,
>       Issue 37
> To: Mel Chua <m...@melchua.com>
> Cc: Brian Long <brilon...@gmail.com>, sugar-devel
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>> >
>> > Is there any means of running sugar or python via a JVM?
>
>
> Sure, see http://jython.org. *Sugar* won't run in it (it's py2.4 IIRC), but
> you'll get Python.
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> From: Lucian Branescu <lucian.brane...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [math4] FourthGradeMath Digest, Vol 2,
>       Issue 37
> To: Luke Faraone <l...@faraone.cc>
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> The latest Jython is 2.5 RC2 I think.
>
> The problem is that Jython can't really use CPython (regular python)
> extensions and Sugar depends on many things, most importantly GTK.
>
> 2009/3/29 Luke Faraone <l...@faraone.cc>:
>> Brian Long wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Is there any means of running sugar or python via a JVM?
>>
>> Sure, see http://jython.org. *Sugar* won't run in it (it's py2.4 IIRC),
>> but
>> you'll get Python.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Luke Faraone
>> http://luke.faraone.cc
>>
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> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:41:35 +0530
> From: chirag jain <chiragjain1...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Sugar-devel] Google summer of Code proposal: Speech
>       Synthesis
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> Hi!!
>
> I have created a rough proposal of speech synthesis. Please have a look at:
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/speech-synthesis
>
> Well the basic idea is to provide a button in core sugar like a home
> button which is always present, and whenever the user selects the text
> in current window and presses the speech button, the selected text is
> speaked out.
>
> The doubt is how to provide the button in sugar core? If you have any
> ideas or suggestions please reply.
>
> Regards
> chirag jain
>
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> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:48:02 -0400
> From: "Benjamin M. Schwartz" <bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Google summer of Code proposal: Speech
>       Synthesis
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> chirag jain wrote:
>> The doubt is how to provide the button in sugar core? If you have any
>> ideas or suggestions please reply.
>
> It sounds like a good plan to me.  On my XO, build candidate-801 (8.2.1),
> I can easily do:
>
> yum install xclip
> [select some text]
> xclip -o | espeak --stdin
>
> All you have to do is wrap this up in a frame device, like the volume
> control or battery meter, and you're done!
>
> Bonus: reimplement using pygst, the gstreamer speak plugin, and pyx11 or
> libX11, so that xclip isn't needed and you don't need to spawn a new
> process every time.
>
> - --Ben
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> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:50:02 +0000
> From: Aleksey Lim <alsr...@member.fsf.org>
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Google summer of Code proposal: Speech
>       Synthesis
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> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:41:35AM +0530, chirag jain wrote:
>> Hi!!
>>
>> I have created a rough proposal of speech synthesis. Please have a look
>> at:
>>
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/speech-synthesis
>>
>> Well the basic idea is to provide a button in core sugar like a home
>> button which is always present, and whenever the user selects the text
>> in current window and presses the speech button, the selected text is
>> speaked out.
> I'm sure we should expand this simple idea to full-featured support
> of assistive technologies in sugar
>
>> The doubt is how to provide the button in sugar core? If you have any
>> ideas or suggestions please reply.
> I've just started orca[1] and regular gnome-terminal.. and it doesnt
> use any special buttons(in gnome-terminal) -- i think thats the way
> sugar should follow.
>
> [1] http://projects.gnome.org/orca/
>
> --
> Aleksey
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:24:05 -0400
> From: Brian Long <bbl5...@rit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [math4] FourthGradeMath Digest, Vol 2,
>       Issue 37
> To: Lucian Branescu <lucian.brane...@gmail.com>
> Cc: Mel Chua <m...@melchua.com>, sugar-devel
>       <sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org>,      Luke Faraone <l...@faraone.cc>
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> Yeah,
>
> Sorry for any waste of time, I was debating what might be my best option for
> testing anything I develop.  I will probably go with "Sugar on a Stick"
> instead.
>
> There was also some chatter on the FourthGradeMath mailing list about the
> best way that teacher's involved in our projects could be exposed to Sugar.
> SoaS is probably the best option for people who only have access to a PC as
> well.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Lucian Branescu
> <lucian.brane...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> The latest Jython is 2.5 RC2 I think.
>>
>> The problem is that Jython can't really use CPython (regular python)
>> extensions and Sugar depends on many things, most importantly GTK.
>>
>> 2009/3/29 Luke Faraone <l...@faraone.cc>:
>> > Brian Long wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there any means of running sugar or python via a JVM?
>> >
>> > Sure, see http://jython.org. *Sugar* won't run in it (it's py2.4 IIRC),
>> but
>> > you'll get Python.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Luke Faraone
>> > http://luke.faraone.cc
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sugar-devel mailing list
>> > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>> >
>> >
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> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:25:06 +0200
> From: Lucian Branescu <lucian.brane...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [math4] FourthGradeMath Digest, Vol 2,
>       Issue 37
> To: Brian Long <bbl5...@rit.edu>
> Cc: Mel Chua <m...@melchua.com>, sugar-devel
>       <sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org>,      Luke Faraone <l...@faraone.cc>
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> I'm using SoaS in VirtualBox. Works great for me :)
>
> 2009/3/29 Brian Long <bbl5...@rit.edu>:
>> Yeah,
>>
>> Sorry for any waste of time, I was debating what might be my best option
>> for
>> testing anything I develop.? I will probably go with "Sugar on a Stick"
>> instead.
>>
>> There was also some chatter on the FourthGradeMath mailing list about the
>> best way that teacher's involved in our projects could be exposed to
>> Sugar.
>> SoaS is probably the best option for people who only have access to a PC
>> as
>> well.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Lucian Branescu
>> <lucian.brane...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The latest Jython is 2.5 RC2 I think.
>>>
>>> The problem is that Jython can't really use CPython (regular python)
>>> extensions and Sugar depends on many things, most importantly GTK.
>>>
>>> 2009/3/29 Luke Faraone <l...@faraone.cc>:
>>> > Brian Long wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Is there any means of running sugar or python via a JVM?
>>> >
>>> > Sure, see http://jython.org. *Sugar* won't run in it (it's py2.4 IIRC),
>>> > but
>>> > you'll get Python.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Luke Faraone
>>> > http://luke.faraone.cc
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Sugar-devel mailing list
>>> > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:25:51 -0700
> From: Sameer Verma <sve...@sfsu.edu>
> Subject: [Sugar-devel] I hear you
> To: OLPC Devel <de...@lists.laptop.org>, sugar
>       <su...@lists.laptop.org>,       olpc-open <olpc-o...@lists.laptop.org>
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> Just came across ihu or I Hear You (http://ihu.sourceforge.net/), a
> peer-to-peer audio app. As compared to Asterisk, it takes the PBX
> dependency out of the picture. You do need to know the end point's IP.
> I haven't tried it on the XO as yet, but sounds like a good fit (no
> pun intended).
>
> cheers,
> Sameer
> --
> Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor of Information Systems
> San Francisco State University
> San Francisco CA 94132 USA
> http://verma.sfsu.edu/
> http://opensource.sfsu.edu/
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:31:49 -0400
> From: Brian Long <bbl5...@rit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [math4] FourthGradeMath Digest, Vol 2,
>       Issue 37
> To: Lucian Branescu <lucian.brane...@gmail.com>
> Cc: Mel Chua <m...@melchua.com>, sugar-devel
>       <sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org>,      Luke Faraone <l...@faraone.cc>
> Message-ID:
>       <e2c25ac50903291331i24fefc6byd7a7a70d4d147...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Lucian,
>
> Awesome, I've never even heard of VirtualBox before actually (obviously I've
> used VMware though).  As a newbie in OpenSource, VirtualBox looks awesome (I
> just wiki-ed it).  I also just setup a dual boot for Ubuntu on my laptop, so
> I'll certainly have to check this out!
>
> The help on this mailing list rocks!
>
> -Brian Long
> bbl5...@rit.edu
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Lucian Branescu
> <lucian.brane...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm using SoaS in VirtualBox. Works great for me :)
>>
>> 2009/3/29 Brian Long <bbl5...@rit.edu>:
>> > Yeah,
>> >
>> > Sorry for any waste of time, I was debating what might be my best option
>> for
>> > testing anything I develop.  I will probably go with "Sugar on a Stick"
>> > instead.
>> >
>> > There was also some chatter on the FourthGradeMath mailing list about
>> > the
>> > best way that teacher's involved in our projects could be exposed to
>> Sugar.
>> > SoaS is probably the best option for people who only have access to a PC
>> as
>> > well.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Brian
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Lucian Branescu <
>> lucian.brane...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The latest Jython is 2.5 RC2 I think.
>> >>
>> >> The problem is that Jython can't really use CPython (regular python)
>> >> extensions and Sugar depends on many things, most importantly GTK.
>> >>
>> >> 2009/3/29 Luke Faraone <l...@faraone.cc>:
>> >> > Brian Long wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Is there any means of running sugar or python via a JVM?
>> >> >
>> >> > Sure, see http://jython.org. *Sugar* won't run in it (it's py2.4
>> IIRC),
>> >> > but
>> >> > you'll get Python.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Luke Faraone
>> >> > http://luke.faraone.cc
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Sugar-devel mailing list
>> >> > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
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