> On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 16:37 +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > > I thought about the "stage 3" design some more and really think we need > > to come up with a good idea on how accommodate all those lessons... > > > > The "month" drop-down menu that Bryan suggested in his mockup is > > something I don't like. First of all it's the only place in Karma (at > > least so far) where we'd be using a drop down menu and secondly because > > they're more complicated to implement, making it harder for people to > > adapt the Chakra to their own needs. > > drop-down menus are pretty easy afaik, unless i am missing something yeah, pretty easy. Ideally, I would like to just drop the lesson folder under a specific place (with a config file) and then everything will be done: links, put the lesson on the correct grade, include the lesson on the necessary menus, etc.. but that's not possible without using a server side solution, maybe using Narwhal or Rhino... but, please note that those tools are server side.
> > Also I was thinking that we should try to avoid using scrolling action > > unless absolutely necessary (reasoning: I think it can be confusing for > > new users, scrollbars are generally hard to handle and they don't look > > so pretty) so I'd prefer to go for a single screen design (such as in > > the current EPaath). > > w/ a single screen design, chakra won't be able to accommodate an > arbitrary # of lessons in a given week w/out shrinking the lesson icons I'm agreed with Bryan, an option is having a specific number of lesson (icons) on a single screen, then, we will have several screens maybe a page (screen) 1, 2, .....N, could work? > > A question I have is whether we mainly want to identify lessons via (a) > > their names or (b) the screenshots associated with them. I have a > > feeling that EPaath's UI implicitly learns towards (b) at the moment. > > I'm thinking that (b) might be an advantage for very young kids but in > > general it's probably better to focus on the name of the lesson. > > > > For the "navigation bar" one option I thought about was using the images > > of the respective sub-categories instead of a text (so instead of Home - > > Grade 1 we'd have: "Home"-icon - "Grade 1"-icon or something). > > I prefer your idea to use icons +1, plus alt attribute 2009/8/20 Bryan Berry <br...@olenepal.org> > > On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 16:37 +0545, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > > I thought about the "stage 3" design some more and really think we need > > to come up with a good idea on how accommodate all those lessons... > > > > The "month" drop-down menu that Bryan suggested in his mockup is > > something I don't like. First of all it's the only place in Karma (at > > least so far) where we'd be using a drop down menu and secondly because > > they're more complicated to implement, making it harder for people to > > adapt the Chakra to their own needs. > > drop-down menus are pretty easy afaik, unless i am missing something > > > Also I was thinking that we should try to avoid using scrolling action > > unless absolutely necessary (reasoning: I think it can be confusing for > > new users, scrollbars are generally hard to handle and they don't look > > so pretty) so I'd prefer to go for a single screen design (such as in > > the current EPaath). > > w/ a single screen design, chakra won't be able to accommodate an > arbitrary # of lessons in a given week w/out shrinking the lesson icons > > Wny don't you create 2 mockups, one more like the old Epaath and the > other w/ the drop-down menu? then we can show it around and have better > idea of which may be best > > > A question I have is whether we mainly want to identify lessons via (a) > > their names or (b) the screenshots associated with them. I have a > > feeling that EPaath's UI implicitly learns towards (b) at the moment. > > I'm thinking that (b) might be an advantage for very young kids but in > > general it's probably better to focus on the name of the lesson. > > > > For the "navigation bar" one option I thought about was using the images > > of the respective sub-categories instead of a text (so instead of Home - > > Grade 1 we'd have: "Home"-icon - "Grade 1"-icon or something). > > I prefer your idea to use icons > > > Looking forward to your feedback. > > > > Christoph > > > > Christoph Derndorfer schrieb: > > > (CC'ing Felipe as I just realized that he hadn't been on this thread) > > > > > > Okay, I've attached screenshot.png to show what the current Chakra > > > mockup looks like within Browse on the XO. > > > > > > I went for a grey background behind the icons because white is too > > > harsh in my opinion (see white_bg.png for what it looks like). That > > > brown at the bottom is also still quite hideous so we'll have to find > > > a nice colour there. > > > > > > As for colours I also think that it might make sense to give the > > > navigation bar (Home - Grade 1...) a different background colour to > > > the surrounding background. What do you think about that? > > > > > > Now we also gotta figure out how to design "stage 3" (the actual > > > lesson selection), should I do a quick mockup based on Bryan's > > > suggestion > > > (http://karmaproject.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/chakra33.png?w=872&h=428)? > > > > > > > > > Another thing we should think about is just wide and high we want to > > > keep that navigation area. The current dimensions seem to work quite > > > well on the XO with the number of currently included icons. However > > > for larger lesson bundles and especially also the lesson selection > > > itself I'm not sure whether this provides us with enough screen real > > > estate to nicely accommodate everything. > > > > > > Let me know what you think. > > > > > > Christoph > > > > > > Christoph Derndorfer schrieb: > > >> Great, thanks a lot! > > >> > > >> I'll integrate them into the Chakra mockup tomorrow... :-) > > >> > > >> Christoph > > >> > > >> Om Prakash Yadav schrieb: > > >>> Here are the buttons in individual transparent PNG file format. > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: Christoph Derndorfer [mailto:e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at] > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:46 PM > > >>> To: Om Prakash Yadav > > >>> Cc: 'Bryan Berry' > > >>> Subject: Re: new svg and jpg > > >>> > > >>> Great stuff! > > >>> > > >>> Would it be possible for you to send me the PNGs for the individual > > >>> buttons so I can easily integrate them in my current Chakra mockup? > > >>> > > >>> Thanks in advance, > > >>> Christoph > > >>> > > >>> Om Prakash Yadav schrieb: > > >>>> Modified and new buttons, please check them out. > > >>>> The buttons for grades for the main screen will follow the same > > >>>> style but > > >>>> with letters only. > > >>>> I can give them to you in transparent PNG format for use in HTML page. > > >>>> > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>> From: Christoph Derndorfer [mailto:e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at] > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:14 PM > > >>>> To: Om Prakash Yadav > > >>>> Cc: 'Bryan Berry' > > >>>> Subject: Re: new svg and jpg > > >>>> > > >>>> I generally really like them but think that the fadeout into the > > >>>> white at the top is too strong at the moment. > > >>>> > > >>>> Christoph > > >>>> > > >>>> Om Prakash Yadav schrieb: > > >>>>> Tell me how you like these and I will make the buttons for the > > >>>>> rest of > > >>> the > > >>>>> subjects. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>> From: Christoph Derndorfer [mailto:e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at] > > >>>>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:30 PM > > >>>>> To: Bryan Berry > > >>>>> Cc: Om Prakash Yadav > > >>>>> Subject: Re: new svg and jpg > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Please find attached the latest version with the label now being > > >>>>> "health" > > >>>>> rather than "medicine". > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Christoph > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Christoph Derndorfer schrieb: > > >>>>>> Quite a good start I dare say! > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I'll change the "medicine" to "health" text once the Inkscape > > >>>>>> download is finished (any day now!!!;-) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Christoph > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Bryan Berry schrieb: > > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> --- > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> Christoph Derndorfer > > >>>>> co-editor, olpcnews > > >>>>> url: www.olpcnews.com > > >>>>> e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > -- > Bryan W. 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