On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 21:27, Michael Stone <mich...@laptop.org> wrote: > Dear z-i folks and sugar folks, > > Three members of the 0install.net community [1] met with several members > of the Sugar community [2] yesterday to exchange knowledge and, in the > case of the Sugar folks, to learn more about z-i and whether it might be > a good fit for use in Sugar activity installation.
Hey, this is great stuff, thanks all and look forward for the next steps. Regards, Tomeu > After the meeting, Thomas wrote up a great set of notes (mostly > describing his answers to Ben's questions) here: > > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.zero-install.devel/2776 > > Please peruse this QnA if you'd like to know what was discussed and > please follow up with someone who seems approachable if you develop new > questions as a result of reading. > > Next, it seems that several of the z-i participants decided after our > meeting to try out Sugar (on a variety of platforms) and to share their > experiences in replies to the z-i-d thread I mentioned above. > > Therefore, for your convenience, I have collected a few of their notable > remarks in the sequel of this email. Please read through them and > respond if you feel so moved. > > Kind regards, > > Michael > > P.S. - Eben and Sebastian: you are both personally CC'ed since I saw > several experience reports that looked like they would be of specific > interest to each of you. > > P.P.S. - Ben and Rubén: you are CC'ed because you both mentioned to me > after the meeting that you found it useful for solidifying your > perspective on the relevance of technology like z-i to Sugar. Could you > each please reply with a summary of what you learned? > > [1]: The z-i folks: Anders [afb], Rene [rsl], and Thomas [talex] > [2]: The sugar folks: Bernie [bernie], Sebastian [sdziallas], > Ben [bemasc], Aleksey [alsroot], Rubén [quidam] and myself > > Now for the experience reports: > > Anders F Björklund wrote: >> I tried to use the Ubuntu 9.04 version of Sugar, but it seems like >> it has some problems (wouldn't even start) and trying to use the PPA >> version seems to have messed up the whole system (so had to revert) > >> Eventually I went with Fedora "Sugar on a Stick" (strawberry flavor), >> but we couldn't really make sense of it in the default boot setting >> with the black-and-white icons and all the small help text in english. > >> Will try to look for some better testing instructions, but so far >> it has stumped both adult and child trying to run it on the Netbook. >> (Couldn't even figure out how to turn it off, so had to hard-power.) > > -------------- > > Thomas Leonard wrote: >> Typing "halt" in the "Terminal" activity worked for me :-/ > > -------------- > > Rene Lopez wrote: >> The version that worked right for me was 0.86 (Debian unstable) and it's >> configured to work inside xephyr. I also didn't understood how it works >> but so far this is what I have found: >> * The X symbol represents you and your computer to shut it down right >> click it and a menu should appear. > >> * The symbols that are around the X are the favorite Activities, left >> click will open them. > >> * The small symbol under the X is the last used open activity. > >> * To switch applications you move the pointer to a corner and a frame >> should appear. > >> * And finally if your computer only has a one button mouse you can leave >> the button pressed to get the same behavior as the right click. > > -------------- > > Anders F Björklund wrote: >> So I guess my experience with Sugar was similar to their experience >> with Zero Install and trying to run the old Subversion feed etc... >> But it seems less than smooth (chunky?) with Ubuntu 9.04 or Fedora 11. > > -------------- > > Rene Lopez wrote: >> I think that the problem is that their target users have a teacher to >> explain how to use it and the teacher has a printed manual so it's not >> hard to them but for an outsider it will be very different to anything >> that you have used and it doesn't self document making it somewhat >> frustrating. > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel