Hi Joshua, On 30 Nov 2009, at 06:23, Joshua Minor wrote:
> Looks great to me. Can you wrangle doing a release? My dev/testing
> environment is way out of date.
I have a gameplay question regarding the 3 local player mode currently
implemented. Are the local users meant to be cooperating or competing with each
other? I notice that the level moves on if any one of the 3 local players
reaches the goal (this suggests 3 folks on one computer are cooperating to
potentially compete against remote player or players). Just wondering if that
was the intended behaviour. I only ask as I'm pondering possible Journal state
usage. Maze level, seed is an obvious one I currently find frustrating as I
often want to carry on from previous rounds; Journal state could also keep a
leader board of previous players (or teams) for the last N levels, i.e:
- maze would keep levelling up as it does now
- after N levels a quick leader board animation could show who (or teams) did
best (think a quick Pacman chase animation depending on who's doing best).
- there would be no total score kept so kids could join at any time and soon
catch-up
Still tweaking/thinking, but FWIW here's the current basic face rep:
http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/maze/repos/garycmartins-face-clone
In various sizes, the 3 local player faces currently look like this:
<<inline: huge.png>>
<<inline: large.png>>
<<inline: medium.png>>
<<inline: small.png>>
<<inline: tiny.png>>
Regards, --Gary P.S. For the record I'm still very interested in a face avatar identicon generator to potentially replace all uses of the XO buddy icon throughout the Sugar UI, so face variations would augment the current colour identity metaphor. > -josh > > On Nov 29, 2009, at 8:32 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > >> Hi Josh, >> >> On 29 Nov 2009, at 21:22, Joshua Minor wrote: >> >>> The border size change sounds fine. Just check that it works okay when the >>> maze is relatively large. (Hit + a bunch of times to get a large maze). >>> >>> When you use the other sets of keys to control your blip in the maze, you >>> get other shapes (circle, triangle, etc). I tried a bunch of shapes, but >>> even something like a star gets lost when the maze is even slightly large. >>> Faces would probably get lost too. >> >> I did try a number of Maze levels to check how well the face details scaled. >> Here's a more exhaustive set, it's a pity pygame doesn't seem to offer too >> much in terms of anti-aliasing, but I think the face still survived the >> scaling pretty well (and could fit in a cube/triangle if needed): >> >> <maze_face_size_test.png> >> >>> The face idea is pretty neat. My other activity, Speak, has a bunch of >>> face editing stuff in it. I think that would be great to factor the face >>> editor out into the Sugar layer (to the same place where you edit your >>> colors). >>> >>> It would be more like the Mii editor in a Nintendo Wii - where your >>> character shows up in whatever game you are playing. You can see a remake >>> of it here: http://www.myavatareditor.com/ Hit the random button a few >>> times :) >> >> I'm not sure we would want to introduce a more complicated Sugar UI for >> this. If you take the current buddy colour picker and have it just generate >> different face shapes along with the two random colours, kids could just >> click through until they find a colour and face shape avatar that they like. >> Walter recently posted an 0.88 working feature proposal that allows undo for >> the buddy colour picker (actually more like previous <-- large current icon >> --> next), so as not to be frustrating when if you pass over one you liked >> and want to go back. That would work well if face shape was added to the >> identity mix. >> >>> I had not heard of identicons before - neat! >> >> Lots of different types out there based on hashes of either IP addresses or >> email addresses. Mainly tessellated/rotated geometric designs, but there are >> a few examples of monsters and faces (though too fussy for my liking, they >> would need to be clean/strong stroke/fill designs for Sugar UI use). >> >> Just bouncing ideas about to see if anything sticks :-) >> >> Regards, >> --Gary >> >>> -josh >>> >>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: >>> >>>> On 29 Nov 2009, at 19:17, Wade Brainerd wrote: >>>> >>>>> I love the faces! Joshua, what do you think about Gary's change? >>>>> >>>>> -Wade >>>> >>>> OK, if faces get the +1, I'd like to also suggest that we vary the face >>>> design. It could just use some hash of the colour and/or user name, and >>>> then use this value to vary some base features like an identicon**, >>>> (square eyes, round eyes, several mouth shapes, noses, face shape, etc). >>>> That way we get colour identity reinforced by shape identity in an >>>> engaging way (get your friend to join your shared maze and see what funny >>>> face they have). >>>> >>>> ** such identicon type thoughts have been drifting about the Sugar UI, at >>>> one point Michael suggested to me activity icons could potentially use >>>> some such scheme to make Journal entries more unique. Buddy icon shapes >>>> are another obvious candidate. Perhaps we should make a standard 'funny >>>> face" image avatar generator? ;-) (only half joking). >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> --Gary >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Gary C Martin <g...@garycmartin.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29 Nov 2009, at 09:15, Tim McNamara wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Something I would like feedback on. After several sessions playing Maze >>>>>>> with 6 year olds, I've noticed that it's sometimes very hard to >>>>>>> distinguish the difference between opponents if they have the same core >>>>>>> colour. E.g. blue w/ light blue stroke is hard to distinguish from blue >>>>>>> w/ dark blue stroke. I think a solution would be to increase the stroke >>>>>>> width. This would make the distinguishing factor easier to see. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> You could give it a quick try and see if it helps: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) look in the directory ~/Activities/Maze.activity >>>>>> 2) edit the text file called player.py >>>>>> 3) at line 45 note the line that says "border = size / 10." >>>>>> 5) change it to read something like "border = size / 5." to double the >>>>>> thickness (see attached screen shot): >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Testing such changes on real children would be gold class feedback! :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to suggest a different change to try. How about a simple face >>>>>> inside the circle to use more of the stroke colour? Here's my quick hack >>>>>> on the code, with screenshot, if you want to give it a try (if folks >>>>>> like this face idea, shout and I'll submit a proper patch): >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>>>> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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