On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <godi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah > How we detect what keyboard is present?
You can possible to detect the XO 1, which guarantees a membrane keyboard. And a non-OLPC machine, which guarantees a non-membrane keyboard. It is the XO 1.5 that is at issue. I'll look into it. -walter def _get_hardware(): """ Determine whether we are using XO 1.0, 1.5, or "unknown" hardware """ bus = dbus.SystemBus() comp_obj = bus.get_object('org.freedesktop.Hal', '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer') dev = dbus.Interface(comp_obj, 'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device') if dev.PropertyExists('system.hardware.vendor') and \ dev.PropertyExists('system.hardware.version'): if dev.GetProperty('system.hardware.vendor') == 'OLPC': if dev.GetProperty('system.hardware.version') == '1.5': return XO15 else: return XO1 else: return UNKNOWN elif path.exists('/etc/olpc-release') or \ path.exists('/sys/power/olpc-pm'): return XO1 else: return UNKNOWN > Gonzalo > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Paul Fox <p...@laptop.org> wrote: >> > i'd like to bring this discussion to a conclusion. >> > >> > i'm starting to be a fan of this proposal of bert's -- it's very >> > simple, keeps the keys the same in sugar and in gnome, and on >> > membrane and non-membrane keyboards, it's backwards compatible >> > with existing use on XO-1, and the volume/ brightness keys remain >> > easily discoverable. it does require that sugar respond to F5 >> > and F6 for "journal" and "frame" -- i still don't have a feeling >> > for whether that's an issue or not, and if so, how big. >> >> The only activity I am aware of that uses F5 and F6 on the XO is the >> most recent version of Paint that Gonzolo is working on. Presumably >> these keymaps could be grabbed by Paint when running on an OLPC XO 1.0 >> or when we detect the membrane keyboard. Otherwise, we could keep the >> mapping as Bert suggests. >> >> > any yeas or nays? >> >> Yeah. >> > >> > paul >> > >> > >> > bert wrote: >> > > >> > > On 17.07.2010, at 09:31, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> > > >> > > > El Thu, 15-07-2010 a las 23:08 -0400, Paul Fox escribió: >> > > >> i think everyone (except >> > > >> apple, i'm learning tonight) agrees this is the correct setup >> > > >> when not in sugar. >> > > > >> > > > Lenovo also seems to be switching to the Apple layout: >> > > > >> > > > >> > http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/thinkpadedgepost16.jpg >> > > > >> > > >> > http://www.thinkpads.com/wp-content/gallery/lenovo-thinkpad-edge-13-review/lenov >> > > o-thinkpad-edge-13-keyboard.jpg >> > > > >> > > > Almost all the historic F-key mappings have an alternative CTRL+key >> > or >> > > > ALT+key mapping in modern HIGs. Keys to control laptop volume and >> > > > brightness are accessed much more frequently, so it's foreseeable >> > that >> > > > over time they will supplant the F-keys in PC keyboards. >> > > >> > > +1 >> > > >> > > IMHO pressing "fn" to get "f1" to "f10" makes sense. In my daily >> > routine I much >> > > more often change volume or brightness than use the numbered F keys. >> > > >> > > Looking at this again >> > > >> > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Spanish_Non-membrane_Keyboard >> > > >> > > I propose: >> > > >> > > f1-f8 produce F key codes both with and without the fn key >> > > f9-f12 produce F codes only with fn, and volume/brightness >> > events >> > > without fn. >> > > >> > > So holding down fn always gets you the F key codes, you can change >> > > volume/brightness without modifier, and as a bonus you can use the >> > first eight >> > > F keys even without the fn key. >> > > >> > > This mapping should work both in Sugar and outside. >> > > >> > > - Bert - >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Devel mailing list >> > > de...@lists.laptop.org >> > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> > >> > =--------------------- >> > paul fox, p...@laptop.org >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Sugar-devel mailing list >> > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Walter Bender >> Sugar Labs >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > -- > Gonzalo Odiard > Responsable de Desarrollo > Sistemas Australes > > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel