2013/3/25 Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com>: > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Manuel Quiñones <ma...@laptop.org> wrote: >> 2013/3/25 Martin Langhoff <martin.langh...@gmail.com>: >>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Manuel Quiñones <ma...@laptop.org> wrote: >>>> My first impression is that this feature can potentially hurt the >>>> clean design of Sugar at some points: >>>> >>>> - the icons color semantic >>>> - high contrast, accesibility >>> >>> Agreed. IMHO it can be improved by applying a "washout" -- mix the >>> image with a white image at 50% alpha. >> >> Great, a washout is a simple and effective solution to my concerns. >> We can play with the percentage of white to get the best value. I >> feel 60-70% could be better. >> >>>> I would like to know more about why is this a long requested feature, >>> >>> Identity is a strong human urge. Kids put stickers on them, adults buy >>> cars of different colors :-) >> >> You are right, and I have to say I love the art intervention kids do >> with stickers. I was wondering if the home background was the right >> place. Sounds like a valid reason. > > I first proposed this feature after observing a school where the kids > were constantly switching back and forth between Sugar and GNOME. When > I asked why, they said it was so they could load a background image. > It was important to their sense of identity. It seemed that we should > offer this feature directly in Sugar. > > This was further reinforced by the request by the president of > Amazonas to load a background image on their machines. We ended up > with a modified boot image as a compromise at the time, but it would > have been much preferred by the "customer" to have it on the home > screen.
Thanks for the background on this topic :) > Finally, while I agree that a background image can make a mess of any > desktop, including Sugar, it is also possible to design a background > that enhances the look. I defer to the imagination of our users in > that respect. > > Regarding fading or mixing with white, I think it is dependent on the > image. Maybe let that be a degree of freedom with a reasonable > default? I agree. Yes a slider with a reasonable default makes absolute sense to me. >> >>>> - Adding it only in the home view kills the ilussion of having three >>>> zoom views. The background should be displayed in all three, I think. > > Not 100% convinced, since the layout for the icons is different in > each view. I could imagine zooming out on the background image in some > interesting way as the view changes. Or just let the user choose > separate backgrounds for each view? For the zoom semantic we did a very good improvement in the previous cycle, unifying the toolbars. It would be a shame to loose it again. We can even reinforce it doing a subtle zoom of the background. The (default) backgrounds should be unobtrusive enough to support any layout of icons. In the home you can also choose the random layout, currently. >>> >>> +1 >> >> Ideally the background could do a subtle zoom to better enhace the >> illussion. Would require hardware acceleration though. Could be left >> for future enhacement. >> >>> >>>> - Why it needs a restart? >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> m >>> -- >>> martin.langh...@gmail.com >>> - ask interesting questions >>> - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first >>> ~ http://docs.moodle.org/24/en/User:Martin_Langhoff >> >> >> >> -- >> .. manuq .. >> _______________________________________________ >> Sugar-devel mailing list >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org -- .. manuq .. _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel