Hi David,

Sorry, this seem to have fallen through the cracks.

> Iain referred me to a Fedora community where LinuxliveUSB installer was 
> recommended and it works just fine. It also installs a Linux emulator for 
> Windows Virtualbox and I found I could run SOAS beautifully in that way. That 
> is very convenient for my purposes (a quick lead in to Sugar). I also found 
> few problems booting USB sticks and SD cards installed using LinuxLiveUSB, on 
> one machine it seems to hang but others it is fine. So it seems the installer 
> was my issue.

I've never seen or heard of the above, I've also never used
VirtualBox, glad it works for you.

> Regarding collaboration, if we have a few PC computers on the same WLAN 
> running SOAS, can we expect them to see each other and collaborate in 
> neighbourhood view, without a server (ie. in the same fashion as XOs on an 
> ad-hoc network)? I seem to recall doing that with early versions of SOAS. If 
> not, is there a simple/light way to enable collaboration/presence service on 
> a local server sufficient to allow a few local SOAS machines to collaborate?. 
> I am familiar with XS developments (up to 0.7) but in the schools in Vanuatu 
> we'll be using gateway servers we have developed ourselves based on Debian 
> (Jessie 8).

I believe there's an issue with recent versions on collaboration, I
don't remember the exact issues, maybe one of the sugar devs can
answer the reasons and when it's expected it can be fixed.

Peter

> Best,
>
> David Leeming
> Solomon Islands
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Peter Robinson
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2015 10:58 a.m.
> To: Development of live Sugar distributions
> Cc: Sugar-dev Devel; Iain Brown Douglas
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] SOAS
>
> Hi David,
>
> I'm the SoaS maintainer.
>
>> I want to demonstrate SOAS to teachers in Vanuatu. I would like to be more 
>> useful, but actually don't have the luxury of time to research these arcane 
>> technical issues in which I am not an expert. I just want to know, is there 
>> a version of SOAS that is properly tested and known to work? I have used 
>> SOAS many times before (years ago) without any problems. Which version is 
>> stable and will boot without errors and not hang on use?
>
> The lastest stable version is available here:
> https://spins.fedoraproject.org/en/soas/
>
>> Could be hardware? I will try with another flashdrive. Is 2GB of persistent 
>> storage too little/too much?
>
> 2Gb should be fine.
>
> Ask here on the SoaS list if you've got any other queries or issues.
>
> Peter
>
>> David Leeming
>> Solomon Islands
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Iain Brown 
>> Douglas
>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2015 7:52 p.m.
>> To: David Leeming
>> Cc: 'Sugar-dev Devel'
>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> From what you say, you already did a search for your error message.
>>
>> Does this Fedora forum answer cover your issue?
>> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=301945
>>
>> I have been working with the script livecd-iso-to-disk and it works
>> fine.
>>
>> I am working on SoaS Loader, here is a link to the work in progress.
>>
>> http://soas-loader.readthedocs.org/
>>
>> Good luck, and thanks for putting time in trying to demonstrate SoaS :)
>>
>> Iain
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 10:51 +1100, David Leeming wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have familiarity with Sugar since working with OLPC from 2008, but I
>>> haven’t been active in these communities for some time. I’m just
>>> refreshing myself on current status of Sugar with a view to
>>> introducing teachers to it in a forthcoming workshop in Vanuatu. We’ll
>>> be using tablets as well as PCs so I have familiarised myself with
>>> Sugarizer. I then intended to introduce the wider world of Sugar
>>> conveniently with SOAS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So I have downloaded both the 32-bit and 64-bit iso files and verified
>>> their hashes. I also download the latest version of USB Live
>>> Installer. I formatted a fairly new 16GB USB with FAT32 and installed
>>> SOAS on it leaving 2000Mb of persistent memory. The USB stick is a
>>> “SanDisk Cruzer Facet 16GB”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Immediately I run into problems. When booting (on a fairly recent
>>> Toshiba i7 laptop) it stops with “vesamenu.c32 not a com32r image”. On
>>> pressing Tab key I do not see “Live” as an option, but it does start
>>> with the option linux0. Sugar boots and I can use it for a few
>>> minutes, I tried Speak and Turtle Art for instance, but within a short
>>> time it hangs and needs a hard boot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I repeated the whole process with the 32-bit (verified) iso file and
>>> same problem. I’ll give this problem only a few hours as that is all I
>>> have. But I would like to know what are the requirements for a
>>> reliable repeatable experience with SOAS, as it says on the website,
>>> to get Sugar into Vanuatu schools.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Leeming
>>>
>>> Solomon Islands
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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