Hi, Walter

Again I am being careless in writing. My apologies.

The purpose in giving the user the option to use the alt key with a default of always starting new is that the current scheme requires additional instruction to sugar users to explain that they must look at the palette to decide which activity to launch. I strongly preferred the original design in which a click on the icon in the Home View started the activity new and a click on the icon in the Journal resumed that instance. If all Journal objects have unique names supplied by the user, it will be very easy for the user to select an activity instance to launch.

I appreciate that some Sugar users prefer the current default behavior. I think this should be implemented with a configuration option to make the default behavior as it is now with the alt button pressed or to make behave as it does now.

Tony

On 06/02/2016 07:50 PM, Walter Bender wrote:


On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Sebastian Silva <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Not every time you do an activity are you doing work worth
    committing. For instance I work with a lot of terminals, that I
    reuse and there's no point in committing terminal sessions.

    So imho Sugar should not force you to commit if you don't want to.


We had long ago talked about letting some activities opt out. Regardless, adding the commit message back with an opt-out button is fine with me, but I still don't understand what problem we are solving. If I understand it, Tony also wants to circumvent the relaunch last instance by default as well. In the case of your Terminal example, it would mean you'd have Terminal instances in your Journal for each time you used the Terminal unless you too the time to go to the Journal and search for a previous instance. I think that makes the spam problem worse, not better.

-walter


    El 02/06/16 a las 12:36, Walter Bender escribió:


    On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Sebastian Silva
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        El 02/06/16 a las 11:37, Walter Bender escribió:

        >
        > I don't recall there ever being a 'Don't Save" dialog. I do
        recall the
        > dialog to enter a "commit message" upon exit. I'm all for
        the latter!!!

        Yes the proposal is a 'commit message' with a 'don't commit'
        option. I
        was never a fan of the former but having the option would
        change my mind.

        Can you help point Utkarsh to when this was removed? Thanks!


    It was sometime before 0.96 because it was in that release I
    added the "Write to Journal Anytime" feature.

    But I am confused as to what problem we are solving here.

    I think we should require commit messages in Sugar the same way
    we require them in our own work. But that said, the decision to
    commit is made numerous times through out the lifecycle of an
    activity, not just at closing. For example, Turtle, Write, and
    many others will write whenever the activity goes to the
    background. And Turtle saves whenever you run code. So how does a
    "don't commit" option work exactly?

    -walter



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