Hi Tony, I agree with you. Are you coming to Pycon?
Regards On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 9:55 AM Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: > What Sugar Labs needs to survive is users. If our count of active users > reaches zero, there will be no need for developers (or Sugar Labs). > > A Conference like PyCon is an opportunity to show that Sugar is a viable > educational platform. So marketing does not need to be concerned about > $, it needs to be concerned about the characteristics of Sugar that make > it an attractive option for educators. At such a conference it is > possible to make presentations - ofen there is an educational track. > More importantly there is an opportunity to have an exhibit (booth). > This booth can provide many examples of Sugar running on platforms other > than the XO (make sure there some XO pictures visible since this > attracts interest to a booth.) Sugarizer can demonstrate that Sugar is > available for smartphones, tablets and other devices. Sugar can show its > capabilities on Ubuntu, Raspbian. Windows is a special case since > Miccrosoft has been able to lock educators into Windows. Showing that > Sugar is viable in a Windows-based deployment may be beyond our current > cabability. > > Our goal should be to attract new contributors and to find new > deployment opportunities. > > Tony > > On 4/15/19 2:28 PM, James Cameron wrote: > > You've all had an interesting discussion. I'll add my points now; in > > the form of questions and answers. > > > > > > Q: are there funds available for marketing? > > > > A: in motion 2019-01 on 4th January, the Oversight Board preserved the > > GSoC 2018 mentor stipends for marketing, > > > > > > Q: are there any other funds available for marketing? > > > > A: yes, the Oversight Board could spend up to about $90k, but such a > > spend would have to have compelling justification. Swag isn't > > compelling. > > > > > > Q: have funds been spent on marketing? > > > > A: yes, the Oversight Board agreed to spend money on travel for two > > members to PyCon 2019. > > > > > > Q: how will the rest of the funds be spent? > > > > A: apart from reserving funds for marketing expenses relating to > > SCaLE, and not yet applied for, the Oversight Board has made no other > > decision. > > > > However, the board has received some marketing plans, has asked for > > changes, and will hear any proposals. > > > > > > Q: will a proposal or marketing plan have greater merit if it comes > > from a team who call themselves marketing? > > > > A: no, because; > > > > - the Oversight Board has not formed a marketing team, > > > > - our original marketing team, who had people qualified in marketing, > > left long ago, > > > > - the Oversight Board consist of developers or other subject matter > > experts, can see a claim for legitimacy a mile off, and discount it > > easily, > > > > > > Q: but isn't there's a marketing team on the Wiki? > > > > A: it is out of date. > > > > > > Q: but aren't there a whole lot of teams on the Wiki? > > > > A: it is out of date. Please work together with all of Sugar Labs, > > don't look for a team. > > > > > > Q: does the Software Freedom Conservancy control the funds? > > > > A: to a limited extent. The Conservancy will act on decisions by the > > Oversight Board provided those decisions are legal and follow > > Conservancy policies, so any marketing also has to follow those > > policies. > > > > > > Comment; > > > > Gathering more developers who are active is our key to survival as a > > community. If our count of active developers reaches zero, there will > > be a short delay and then something in the environment will change and > > Sugar, Sugarizer or Music Blocks won't be usable. That is one of > > reasons why we are engaged with Google Summer of Code and Google > > Season of Docs. > > > > We have some people who are interested in helping but have yet to > > learn the skills to contribute actively. I'd like to see that change. > > Get started with programming, write new Sugar activities, fix > > activities, and write documentation. > > > > > > Q: what will happen if I do nothing except talk? > > > > A: nothing. ;-) > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 12:58:14AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote: > >> Hi, Vipul, Jaskirat, and all members of SL community! > >> > >> These days I'm thinking about two things: > >> > >> 1. How to expand the SL developer community? > >> > >> 2. How do we move towards the vision for sugar labs that was discussed > a few > >> weeks ago in an email thread? > >> > >> As of now, I've some ideas for *1*, but need more inputs from everyone. > Shall I > >> start a new thread for new inputs? > >> > >> And yes, I'm constantly thinking about how can we make great things > happen in > >> the community. Glad that you noticed. > >> > >> Regards > >> Sumit > >> > >> On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, 12:51 am Jaskirat Singh, <[1] > juskirat2...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks Vipul for taking this up, The funds that were granted by > Google for > >> GSOC ( I guess ) remains with the community and it is being > controlled by > >> SFC of which Sugar Labs is a member project. > >> I see that Sumit initiated about swags, but maybe it might not > have been > >> made to move further due to absence of the budget proposal. > >> > >> So if anyone of us can try working on proposal for marketing along > with a > >> marketing team that would be great and would become easy for Board > to > >> review and add up their decisions. > >> > >> On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, 12:39 am Vipul Gupta <[2] > vipulgupta2...@gmail.com > >> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks, Jaskirat, I have also attached an email snippet > regarding GSoC > >> Mentor Stipends on Sumit's request that was reallocated to the > >> marketing committee for making shirts, and stickers. I am not > sure what > >> is the progress of the same since then or the status? But > looking > >> forward to hearing from any GSoC 2018 mentors as to what > happened to > >> those funds. > >> > >> Cordially, > >> Vipul Gupta > >> [3]Mixster | [4]Github > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:56 PM Jaskirat Singh <[5] > >> juskirat2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Vipul, > >> > >> Yes I would be at Open Source Summit Europe in France, It > would be > >> indeed to interact with communities/people for introducing > >> sugarlabs and its productivity there. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 11:30 am Vipul Gupta <[6] > >> vipulgupta2...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> Sounds like a plan! Thank you for your support, > Jasikrat. I see > >> you are planning to go for Open Source Summit, would > you mind > >> to be our spokesperson there. > >> Maybe some opportunity comes from the Linux Foundation > as well. > >> I also wanted to start a discussion on the use of funds > >> allocated for Sugar Labs's merchandise at the end of > Google > >> Summer of Code using the designs made in Google > Code-In. > >> > >> Cordially, > >> Vipul Gupta > >> [7]Mixster | [8]Github > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 10:46 AM Jaskirat Singh <[9] > >> juskirat2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Vipul, > >> > >> This sounds really good. I really appreciate you > both for > >> representing Sugar labs at PyCon. > >> > >> Well, I proposed somewhat same thing like > Organising Sugar > >> Summits in various countries, I am still in the > middle of > >> it to draft my proposal for the same. So once its > done I > >> will share here. > >> And I think this is a good opportunity as well for > us to > >> represent Sugar Labs at such a great platform. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 10:32 am Vipul Gupta <[10] > >> vipulgupta2...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> Hello folks, > >> At the end of 2018, we started the Outreach > works for > >> Sugar Labs. At first, we thought of sharing > several > >> accomplishments throughout Google Code-In to > keep the > >> people in the loop on various social media > platforms, > >> as well as sharing experiences of Google > Summer of Code > >> students and their projects held in 2018 for a > positive > >> impact. > >> > >> We thought we can go bigger and with that > thought in > >> mind represent Sugar Labs on larger platforms > in front > >> of communities. I proposed PyCon to be a great > choice > >> for the same. Considering OLPC represented XO > laptops > >> being part of PyCon 2008 (An article by > [11]Tony) > >> Hence, we submitted a proposal for talks about > Sugar > >> Labs in the Education Summit of PyCon > Cleveland 2019, > >> and I am very happy to inform that we have in > fact been > >> selected. It's a great accomplishment for us > all. > >> > >> Samson would be representing our community at > PyCon > >> Cleveland. I, unfortunately, due to my > university exams > >> won't be able to go. As much as I loved > drafting the > >> proposal with Samson and be would like to meet > and talk > >> about Sugar Labs, I am happy that Samson has a > chance > >> to be at PyCon and will do great. We are still > raw in > >> your efforts and have lots to improve. Would > love to > >> have more suggestions on things we should be > doing, and > >> also planning to hold workshops regarding > Sugar in many > >> countries in the near future. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Cordially, > >> Vipul Gupta > >> [12]Mixster | [13]Github > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sugar-devel mailing list > >> [14]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> [15] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sugar-devel mailing list > >> [16]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> [17]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > >> > >> References: > >> > >> [1] mailto:juskirat2...@gmail.com > >> [2] mailto:vipulgupta2...@gmail.com > >> [3] https://mixstersite.wordpress.com/ > >> [4] https://github.com/vipulgupta2048 > >> [5] mailto:juskirat2...@gmail.com > >> [6] mailto:vipulgupta2...@gmail.com > >> [7] https://mixstersite.wordpress.com/ > >> [8] https://github.com/vipulgupta2048 > >> [9] mailto:juskirat2...@gmail.com > >> [10] mailto:vipulgupta2...@gmail.com > >> [11] > http://www.olpcnews.com/use_cases/technology/pycon_2008_and_olpc.html > >> [12] https://mixstersite.wordpress.com/ > >> [13] https://github.com/vipulgupta2048 > >> [14] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> [15] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > >> [16] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> [17] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sugar-devel mailing list > >> Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >
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