Hi Tony,
I agree with you. Are you coming to Pycon?
Regards
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 9:55 AM Tony Anderson
<tony_ander...@usa.net <mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote:
What Sugar Labs needs to survive is users. If our count of
active users
reaches zero, there will be no need for developers (or Sugar
Labs).
A Conference like PyCon is an opportunity to show that Sugar
is a viable
educational platform. So marketing does not need to be
concerned about
$, it needs to be concerned about the characteristics of
Sugar that make
it an attractive option for educators. At such a conference
it is
possible to make presentations - ofen there is an educational
track.
More importantly there is an opportunity to have an exhibit
(booth).
This booth can provide many examples of Sugar running on
platforms other
than the XO (make sure there some XO pictures visible since this
attracts interest to a booth.) Sugarizer can demonstrate that
Sugar is
available for smartphones, tablets and other devices. Sugar
can show its
capabilities on Ubuntu, Raspbian. Windows is a special case
since
Miccrosoft has been able to lock educators into Windows.
Showing that
Sugar is viable in a Windows-based deployment may be beyond
our current
cabability.
Our goal should be to attract new contributors and to find new
deployment opportunities.
Tony
On 4/15/19 2:28 PM, James Cameron wrote:
> You've all had an interesting discussion. I'll add my
points now; in
> the form of questions and answers.
>
>
> Q: are there funds available for marketing?
>
> A: in motion 2019-01 on 4th January, the Oversight Board
preserved the
> GSoC 2018 mentor stipends for marketing,
>
>
> Q: are there any other funds available for marketing?
>
> A: yes, the Oversight Board could spend up to about $90k,
but such a
> spend would have to have compelling justification. Swag isn't
> compelling.
>
>
> Q: have funds been spent on marketing?
>
> A: yes, the Oversight Board agreed to spend money on travel
for two
> members to PyCon 2019.
>
>
> Q: how will the rest of the funds be spent?
>
> A: apart from reserving funds for marketing expenses
relating to
> SCaLE, and not yet applied for, the Oversight Board has
made no other
> decision.
>
> However, the board has received some marketing plans, has
asked for
> changes, and will hear any proposals.
>
>
> Q: will a proposal or marketing plan have greater merit if
it comes
> from a team who call themselves marketing?
>
> A: no, because;
>
> - the Oversight Board has not formed a marketing team,
>
> - our original marketing team, who had people qualified in
marketing,
> left long ago,
>
> - the Oversight Board consist of developers or other
subject matter
> experts, can see a claim for legitimacy a mile off, and
discount it
> easily,
>
>
> Q: but isn't there's a marketing team on the Wiki?
>
> A: it is out of date.
>
>
> Q: but aren't there a whole lot of teams on the Wiki?
>
> A: it is out of date. Please work together with all of
Sugar Labs,
> don't look for a team.
>
>
> Q: does the Software Freedom Conservancy control the funds?
>
> A: to a limited extent. The Conservancy will act on
decisions by the
> Oversight Board provided those decisions are legal and follow
> Conservancy policies, so any marketing also has to follow those
> policies.
>
>
> Comment;
>
> Gathering more developers who are active is our key to
survival as a
> community. If our count of active developers reaches zero,
there will
> be a short delay and then something in the environment will
change and
> Sugar, Sugarizer or Music Blocks won't be usable. That is
one of
> reasons why we are engaged with Google Summer of Code and
Google
> Season of Docs.
>
> We have some people who are interested in helping but have
yet to
> learn the skills to contribute actively. I'd like to see
that change.
> Get started with programming, write new Sugar activities, fix
> activities, and write documentation.
>
>
> Q: what will happen if I do nothing except talk?
>
> A: nothing. ;-)
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 12:58:14AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava
wrote:
>> Hi, Vipul, Jaskirat, and all members of SL community!
>>
>> These days I'm thinking about two things:
>>
>> 1. How to expand the SL developer community?
>>
>> 2. How do we move towards the vision for sugar labs that
was discussed a few
>> weeks ago in an email thread?
>>
>> As of now, I've some ideas for *1*, but need more inputs
from everyone. Shall I
>> start a new thread for new inputs?
>>
>> And yes, I'm constantly thinking about how can we make
great things happen in
>> the community. Glad that you noticed.
>>
>> Regards
>> Sumit
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, 12:51 am Jaskirat Singh,
<[1]juskirat2...@gmail.com <mailto:juskirat2...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Vipul for taking this up, The funds that were
granted by Google for
>> GSOC ( I guess ) remains with the community and it is
being controlled by
>> SFC of which Sugar Labs is a member project.
>> I see that Sumit initiated about swags, but maybe it
might not have been
>> made to move further due to absence of the budget
proposal.
>>
>> So if anyone of us can try working on proposal for
marketing along with a
>> marketing team that would be great and would become
easy for Board to
>> review and add up their decisions.
>>
>> On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, 12:39 am Vipul Gupta
<[2]vipulgupta2...@gmail.com <mailto:vipulgupta2...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Jaskirat, I have also attached an email
snippet regarding GSoC
>> Mentor Stipends on Sumit's request that was
reallocated to the
>> marketing committee for making shirts, and
stickers. I am not sure what
>> is the progress of the same since then or the
status? But looking
>> forward to hearing from any GSoC 2018 mentors as
to what happened to
>> those funds.
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Vipul Gupta
>> [3]Mixster | [4]Github
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:56 PM Jaskirat Singh <[5]
>> juskirat2...@gmail.com <mailto:juskirat2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Vipul,
>>
>> Yes I would be at Open Source Summit Europe
in France, It would be
>> indeed to interact with communities/people
for introducing
>> sugarlabs and its productivity there.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 11:30 am Vipul Gupta <[6]
>> vipulgupta2...@gmail.com <mailto:vipulgupta2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like a plan! Thank you for your
support, Jasikrat. I see
>> you are planning to go for Open Source
Summit, would you mind
>> to be our spokesperson there.
>> Maybe some opportunity comes from the
Linux Foundation as well.
>> I also wanted to start a discussion on
the use of funds
>> allocated for Sugar Labs's merchandise at
the end of Google
>> Summer of Code using the designs made in
Google Code-In.
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Vipul Gupta
>> [7]Mixster | [8]Github
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 10:46 AM Jaskirat
Singh <[9]
>> juskirat2...@gmail.com <mailto:juskirat2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Vipul,
>>
>> This sounds really good. I really
appreciate you both for
>> representing Sugar labs at PyCon.
>>
>> Well, I proposed somewhat same thing
like Organising Sugar
>> Summits in various countries, I am
still in the middle of
>> it to draft my proposal for the same.
So once its done I
>> will share here.
>> And I think this is a good
opportunity as well for us to
>> represent Sugar Labs at such a great
platform.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, 10:32 am Vipul
Gupta <[10]
>> vipulgupta2...@gmail.com <mailto:vipulgupta2...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Hello folks,
>> At the end of 2018, we started
the Outreach works for
>> Sugar Labs. At first, we thought
of sharing several
>> accomplishments throughout Google
Code-In to keep the
>> people in the loop on various
social media platforms,
>> as well as sharing experiences of
Google Summer of Code
>> students and their projects held
in 2018 for a positive
>> impact.
>>
>> We thought we can go bigger and
with that thought in
>> mind represent Sugar Labs on
larger platforms in front
>> of communities. I proposed PyCon
to be a great choice
>> for the same. Considering OLPC
represented XO laptops
>> being part of PyCon 2008 (An
article by [11]Tony)
>> Hence, we submitted a proposal
for talks about Sugar
>> Labs in the Education Summit of
PyCon Cleveland 2019,
>> and I am very happy to inform
that we have in fact been
>> selected. It's a great
accomplishment for us all.
>>
>> Samson would be representing our
community at PyCon
>> Cleveland. I, unfortunately, due
to my university exams
>> won't be able to go. As much as I
loved drafting the
>> proposal with Samson and be would
like to meet and talk
>> about Sugar Labs, I am happy that
Samson has a chance
>> to be at PyCon and will do great.
We are still raw in
>> your efforts and have lots to
improve. Would love to
>> have more suggestions on things
we should be doing, and
>> also planning to hold workshops
regarding Sugar in many
>> countries in the near future.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Vipul Gupta
>> [12]Mixster | [13]Github
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>> [7] https://mixstersite.wordpress.com/
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>> [11]
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