On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 7:34 PM James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > Thanks. I agree. > > Would a technical writer alone be suitable, or must a technical writer > be combined with a teacher? There's a risk that by placing domain > specific limitations on the project, we make it harder for GSoD to > choose us.
I think we can provide the pedagogical support via mentoring much the way we provide programming support via mentoring. We have some very experienced people, e.g., Claudia, in our ranks. > > What mode of delivery is best suited to teachers; written manuals, > lesson plans, onscreen walkthroughs, or stand up lectures? There's a > risk that GSoD candidates will concentrate on written documentation. I think lesson plans are a great place to start and can serve as a backbone for the modalities. > > How do we emphasise constructivism, constructionism, or constructivist > teaching methods? Is there a degree or certification we can require? I don't think the writer needs to come with those skills but can learn from some good examples from the contructionsist community. > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:52:53PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote: > > Apologies for my late response to this thread. > > > > Regarding documentation, I think we have a major hole to fill in > > Sugar, Music Blocks, and Sugarizer: supporting materials for teachers. > > While we have docs for the individual components, we could go a long > > ways towards giving some structure to a teacher who might want to > > build a comprehensive program out of any of our major subsystems. > > > > -walter > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 4:31 AM James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > > > > Yes. Please make a list of content if none is available and content > > > that should be demystified? > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 10:07:45AM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote: > > > > Anyone can correct me if I am wrong. But the point of Season of Docs is > > > > > > > > 1. Generate content if none is available. > > > > 2. Very important is looking at the existing content and demystify it > > > > to the > > > > nearest minimum (Sugar Labs needs this) > > > > > > > > The idea for a technical writer is to simplify and transfer information > > > > between > > > > Sugar Labs and anyone consuming the content. > > > > > > > > To you, the content may look fine because you may not be the target, or > > > > in this > > > > case, you are an author of some of the tools generated. > > > > > > > > Having great doc is a demanding requirement for onboarding in open > > > > source, and > > > > unfortunately, I can't say Sugar Labs has one(simplifications). > > > > > > > > Also a completely different from GSoC. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:59 AM James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > My first question was the most important. > > > > > > > > I can't think of any documentation Sugar Labs needs that we haven't > > > > already got in some form or other across our sprawling web presence. > > > > > > > > I recommend against proceeding unless some documentation is needed. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 09:42:40AM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote: > > > > > Hello James, > > > > > > > > > > I read the documentation, yes it looks like a grant based program > > > > this > > > > time > > > > > around. > > > > > > > > > > Just as I mentioned last year, I would love to admin the program, > > > > or be > > > > one of > > > > > the admins. > > > > > > > > > > I am working on a system in place already. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:33 AM James Cameron > > > > <[1][2]qu...@laptop.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Indeed. So the question becomes; > > > > > > > > > > - what documentation does Sugar Labs need (e.g. for > > > > Sugarizer, Music > > > > > Blocks, or Sugar); this forms part of a project proposal, > > > > > > > > > > - who will recruit, evaluate, and onboard a technical writer? > > > > > > > > > > - who will administer the program in Sugar Labs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [2][3]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 08:48:21AM +0100, Favour Kelvin wrote: > > > > > > It is being organized differently this year; we have to > > > > apply for a > > > > grant > > > > > and > > > > > > then we find the writer we reach out directly to the writer > > > > we want > > > > to > > > > > work > > > > > > with, at least that is how I understood it. > > > > > > > > > > > > [1][3][4]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > > > > > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html? > > > > m=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > [2][4][5]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/ > > > > tech-writer-guide > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, 06:18 Saumya Mishra, <[3][5][6] > > > > 2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it is a great idea. Sugar labs should take part > > > > in > > > > GSoD. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Saumya Mishra > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 7:05 AM James Cameron <[4][6][7] > > > > qu...@laptop.org > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It's back. Can we win a slot this year? Ideas > > > > welcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > [5][7][8]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > > > > > > > > > > [6][8][9]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > James Cameron > > > > > > [7][9][10]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > > > > [8][10][11]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > > > > > > > [9][11][12]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > > > > [10][12][13]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > > > > > > > [11][13][14]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > References: > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] [14][15]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > > > > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m= > > > > 1 > > > > > > [2] > > > > [15][16]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/ > > > > > tech-writer-guide > > > > > > [3] mailto:[16][17]2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > > > > > > [4] mailto:[17][18]qu...@laptop.org > > > > > > [5] [18][19]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > > > > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > > > > > > [6] [19][20]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > > > > [7] [20][21]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > > [8] mailto:[21][22]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > > > [9] [22][23]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > [10] mailto:[23][24]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > > > [11] [24][25]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > James Cameron > > > > > [25][26]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > > > [26][27]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > > [27][28]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > > > > > References: > > > > > > > > > > [1] mailto:[29]qu...@laptop.org > > > > > [2] > > > > [30]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide > > > > > [3] [31]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > > [4] [32]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/ > > > > tech-writer-guide > > > > > [5] mailto:[33]2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > > > > > [6] mailto:[34]qu...@laptop.org > > > > > [7] [35]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > > [8] [36]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > > > [9] [37]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > [10] mailto:[38]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > > [11] [39]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > [12] mailto:[40]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > > [13] [41]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > [14] [42]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > > > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1 > > > > > [15] [43]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/ > > > > tech-writer-guide > > > > > [16] mailto:[44]2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > > > > > [17] mailto:[45]qu...@laptop.org > > > > > [18] [46]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > > > > > [19] [47]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > > > [20] [48]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > [21] mailto:[49]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > > [22] [50]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > [23] mailto:[51]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > > [24] [52]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > [25] [53]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > [26] mailto:[54]Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > > [27] [55]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > > > -- > > > > James Cameron > > > > [56]https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > > > > References: > > > > > > > > [1] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > > > [2] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > > > [3] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide > > > > [4] https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > [5] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide > > > > [6] mailto:2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > > > > [7] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > > > [8] https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > [9] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > > [10] https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > [11] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > [12] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > [13] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > [14] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > [15] https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > [16] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/ > > > > [17] mailto:2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > > > > [18] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > > > [19] https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > [20] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > > [21] https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > [22] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > [23] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > [24] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > [25] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > [26] https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > [27] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > [28] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > [29] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > > > [30] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide > > > > [31] https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > [32] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide > > > > [33] mailto:2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > > > > [34] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > > > [35] https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/ > > > > [36] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > > [37] https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > [38] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > [39] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > [40] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > [41] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > [42] > > > > https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1 > > > > [43] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide > > > > [44] mailto:2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in > > > > [45] mailto:qu...@laptop.org > > > > [46] > > > > https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html > > > > [47] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs > > > > [48] https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > [49] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > [50] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > [51] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > [52] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > [53] https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > [54] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > > [55] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > [56] https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > > -- > > > James Cameron > > > https://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > > > > -- > > Walter Bender > > Sugar Labs > > http://www.sugarlabs.org > > -- > James Cameron > https://quozl.linux.org.au/ -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel