I think the biggest point to be made here is an argument for a "document" or
"object" of sorts.  Etoys definitely seems to have most of the types of
interaction and media embedding solutions I believe Rebecca and I both want,
but (as far as I know, though I admittedly don't know that much) it does so
in an all encompassing environment.  What we really need is a lightweight
format that lets one pass around these "scratchpads" or "collages" as
objects, so the teacher can create a file, pass it out as homework, etc.  I
could be very wrong in my assumptions, though, so please correct me where I
am.  I see lots of potential for Etoys, and I'd like to better understand
how it integrates with Sugar now, and how we can push it in the most
effective direction.

- Eben

On 6/21/07, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Indeed, "scratchpad" describes Etoys pretty precisely ;)

You can draw, write (even with multi-column text layout flowing
around abjects), and of course calculate.

It's not just "type anywhere and a curve pops up", although in fact
such an extension exists (but not included in the OLPC Etoys
version): called MathMorphs and MorphicWrappers done by the
Argentinian Squeak community a couple years ago:
        http://www.dm.uba.ar/MathMorphs/

and updated to work in recent Squeak releases

        http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5855

If there is enough interest in this (and I agree it's a great
environment for exploring Math) we might try to find someone porting
it to the OLPC version. Or maybe it just works if installed, I
haven't tried (unfortunately our plates are still full with lower-
level stuff).


- Bert -

On Jun 21, 2007, at 22:01 , Eben Eliason wrote:

> Rebecca -
>
> This sounds similar to some of my ideas for "Collage"...allowing
> combinations of text, drawing, image, and other media formats in a
> freeform canvas.  The response there seemed that Etoys was, in many
> ways, already providing such a thing.  I think this is a really
> interesting area though, and the potential to be able to send
> multimedia documents around, specifically in an educational
> environment, is huge. Do you have more thoughts on specifically how
> this could be distinguished from Etoys?
>
> Additionally, there is the Sophie project, but I'm not that
> familiar with it or how far along they've come with the project on
> the XO.
>
> - Eben
>
>
> On 6/21/07, Rebecca Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I had an idea while playing witha green machine...this may be a little
> late, I don't know. What if ther was some sort of "scratchpad"
> activity,
> not draw, or write,or calculator but a kind fusion of all three.
> mathimatical equasions could be typed out and then they could solve
> with
> typing and or drawing for their work, and they could write guides and
> picture books and such with this activity as well. Is this in
> possible/in the plans/something similar is being made???
> ~Rebecca Gettys
>





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