[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Michael Stone wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > knowledge of Update.1 by updating tickets in Trac. Everyone else: get > > behind us, review these bugs, and help push out this release! See > > > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Test_setup_for_Update.1_builds > > > > for rough-cut instructions on how to try out update.1-70x builds. > > ... > > Then, the bad news: in a fascinating conversation with the support-gang > > (yay, support-gang!), it was made plain to me that recent Update.1 > > builds have received little or no testing by folks who aren't building > > them. In light of this datum, we should consider the question: "who do > > we want to persuade to try out U.1 and what support do they need from > > us?"
well, depending on the answer to that question of "who"... > > the removal of the activities is still being sorted out. currently there > is no straightforward way for a tester who previously could just do an > olpc-upgrade to test the recent builds that have the activities removed. > > there are several scripts being developed to manage the activities, but no > clear direction (or directions) in this area, just lots of people who seem > to be working independantly. ...i'm one of the "recent" G1G1 recipients, having only gotten my machine in the last week or two. while that makes me less experienced with the hands-on workings of the laptop, it also means i have a lot less invested in customization, and i care less about the overall stability of the laptop at the moment. i suspect there are a lot of folks in my shoes -- even those who have had G1G1 units for months, for whom the major "i'll lose my activities" issue simply isn't that big a deal. in addition, i've done no updates at all yet (still running 656) partly waiting for "the dust to settle", and partly because of the research i'll need to do to figure out how, and where, and what to upgrade _to_. so if trying update.1 were how i got my feet wet, that would be an impetus. if a "Read This and Help!" message went out on the forums (both laptop.org and olpcnews.com) that testing was needed, with explicit "go here, click here, or type this" instructions (the "rough cut" instructions linked to above are too rough, imho), i think G1G1 users would be happy to help test update.1 -- even though, as i understand it, it isn't planned as an auto-push until some later time. what _would_ be needed is some minimal completion (or perhaps, just documentation) of the pieces that david alludes to. i.e. i don't care if i lose all my current pre-installed activities, as long as someone gives me a bit of direction on where to find them again, even if it's a manual process. (preferably it would be _one_ manual process, and not one process per activity). of course, this all assumes that the added burden of supporting the G1G1 community in this effort wouldn't swamp the benefits of having them/us involved. i'm sure that's not a decision to be made lightly. :-) paul =--------------------- paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (arlington, ma, where it's 30.0 degrees) _______________________________________________ Sugar mailing list [email protected] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
