On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Morgan wrote: >> Connecting to an AP disables the mesh, so I don't see the value of >> what you want. Turning off the mesh while you are connected to a mesh >> channel would simply (in the proposal) turn the wireless radio off >> completely, resulting in neither gabble nor salut able to operate. > > Then I believe the language being used is imprecise. To me, > "turning off the mesh" means turning off the __mesh__. If what is > actually being turned off is the __radio__, then call it "turning > off the wireless radio".
I don't actually believe this is the spec at all. I specifically removed the "turn off" actions from the Mesh (and APs) because we /don't/ want to turn off the radio for either of these cases, since that would naturally prevent the other from working. I don't want to conflate "disconnect from AP" and "turn off the mesh" with "turn off the radio" at all. > What I keep butting my head against is not being able to *control* > what is going on. In my mind a 'mesh' is one interface, and an 'AP' > is another interface. I would like to "turn off the mesh" when > there are no local XOs, and no school server. You are saying that > the 'AP' would get turned off as well. Not something I prefer. Right, I agree with you. Turning off the Mesh should be possible in theory; it makes sense. But as I understand it, at present, the only way to "turn off" any NM device it to associate with another...in this case, an AP. I'd /much/ prefer to have these be independent, so that it's possible to connect/disconnect and/or turn on/turn off these devices without interference. >> The mesh and the AP are mutually exclusive. >> >> gabble and salut are independent of the network topology. > > I'm sorry, but these memes have been said so many different ways > that they no longer convey any information to me. If taking down > the mesh can take down the AP, how can they be exclusive? If salut > listens on the mesh, isn't that a dependence on there being a mesh? They are mutually exclusive in that you cannot, at present, be connected to both at the same time. It's one or the other, not both, though I believe the goal is to change that in the future. As I mentioned before, I strongly disagree with the idea that "turning off the mesh" should be connected to "turning off the radio". - Eben > mikus > > _______________________________________________ > Sugar mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > _______________________________________________ Sugar mailing list [email protected] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

