I don't agree with adding #4 at this time (changing how/where we see the mesh icons). One of the many work-arounds that we have been telling people in field is that they may need to choose mesh ch 6 or 11 if they want a small group to collaborate in a school setting without any other infrastructure. If the mesh icon doesn't show up in the neighborhood view, that will be a problem.

I'd like to see this UI change well before it is implemented. Is there a url, Eben?

I'm less concerned about 1 and 3 because they don't seem invasive from the one line summary... if they get in this week as polish that would be ok. I don't know the depth of 5 or 2... and I'm most worried about 4.

If all these fixes come in one patch, then I would ask that we do NOT take this patch. If we can pick and choose from this list to get some polish things into 8.2, then let's pick a few based on the invasiveness.

Thanks,
Kim


1 Adds "IP address" to the mesh & wireless palettes, with associated
changes to their model classes.
2 Removes the "Disconnect" or "Turn On/off" entries from the
wireless/mesh palettes.
3 Makes both frame icons pulse.
4 Don't show the mesh icons in the mesh view, instead show them in the frame.
5 Fix some iconsistency in the icon states by cleaning up the code.

On Aug 25, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:

Eben Eliason wrote:
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti

4 would be nice to have but I don't consider it essential.


Actually, I think this is the most important aspect of the design, and
I strongly suggest we try to land it.  This has been confusing to
many, and when we change it I think we need to commit to going the
whole way, instead of leaving it in limbo which will only confuse
people more down the road.


Personally I think it's way too late for invasive UI changes. I'm fine to be overridden by Kim/Greg decision in that direction, though.

Marco

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