Please provide a small sample scenario (I know its from MoST but since it seems to happen quite often maybe you can put something together will just a few roads).
thanks, Jakob 2018-09-25 15:14 GMT+02:00 Lara CODECA <lara.cod...@eurecom.fr>: > On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 13:45:49 +0200 > Jakob Erdmann <namdre.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > My first guess is that this is roundabout related. > > Can you check > > a) whether this only occurs near roundabouts? > No, it happens near other intersections too (see > align.center.intersection.png) > > b) whether the issue disappars when setting lcCooperative=0 for all > > vehicles? > No, lcCooperative set to 0 does not change this behavior. > > regards, > > Jakob > > > > One thing that I noticed, tho, is that this happen more frequently if the > street is composed by 1 > edge only (there is no other direction). > > Thanks, > Lara > > > 2018-09-25 13:20 GMT+02:00 Lara CODECA <lara.cod...@eurecom.fr>: > > > > > Hello Jakob, > > > > > > all the vehicles in the screenshot are latAlignment="center" and only > the > > > motorbikes are > > > latAlignent="arbitrary". Given the 2 lanes, I was expecting the > vehicles > > > to queue on both lanes, > > > and not in the middle. Is this normal? > > > > > > For the records, of I use a simple "highway" scenario, all works fine. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Lara > > > > > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:25:11 +0200 > > > Jakob Erdmann <namdre.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > When using default lane-width (3.2m), vehicle widths (1.8m) and > > > motorcyle > > > > width (0.8m) > > > > It should suffice to give vehicles latAlignment="center" and use > > > > latAlignent="arbitrary" for motorcycles. > > > > The big advantage of this scheme is to avoid the need for > > > > custom-location-specific alignment (you may have to set a lower > minGapLat > > > > for motorcycles though). > > > > > > > > There may be cases where the motorcycles wait in parallel and block > other > > > > vehicles. > > > > A solution for that would be to invent a new alignment "between" > that > > > would > > > > make them drive on the lane marking between lanes (with epsilon to > one > > > side > > > > to avoid numerical instability in determining the primary lane), > whenever > > > > there is more than one lane. > > > > > > > > There is actually a parameter that does location specific alignment > > > > (lcTurnAlignmentDistance) which makes vehicles alight left before > turning > > > > left and right before turning right) but this is still done in a > generic > > > > manner which does not require extra network attributes. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Jakob > > > > > > > > > > > > 2018-09-20 12:18 GMT+02:00 Laura Bieker <bieker.la...@gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > Hello Lara, > > > > > > > > > > if you need this behaviour only on a vehicle base you can use the > > > > > Bluelight- Device ( http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/SUMO#Bluelight_Device > )*.* > > > > > > > > > > If you enable --device.bluelight.explicit *vehicleID *for this > vehicle > > > > > the surrounding traffic is formatting a virtuall middle lane to > let the > > > > > vehicle pass. > > > > > But after it has passed the vehicles drive with their old > alignment. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Laura > > > > > > > > > > Am Do., 20. Sep. 2018 um 12:03 Uhr schrieb Lara CODECA < > > > > > lara.cod...@eurecom.fr>: > > > > > > > > > >> Hello Jakob, > > > > >> > > > > >> sorry for the wrong mailing list. > > > > >> > > > > >> I need to implement middle virtual lanes for motorbikes. > > > > >> For example, in a 2 lanes road, the alignment on the rightmost > lane is > > > > >> right and on the leftmost > > > > >> lane is left. > > > > >> This should create a space in the middle, and I want to see if > small > > > > >> vehicle can use > > > > >> this to alleviate traffic congestion. Obviously I need to find a > way > > > for > > > > >> motorbikes to overtake > > > > >> both left and right.. > > > > >> Maybe something similar is already done to enable blue-light > vehicles > > > to > > > > >> cross intersections.. > > > > >> > > > > >> Alternatively, would it be possible to force an alignment on a > > > lane-base > > > > >> / vehicle-base? > > > > >> > > > > >> ---- >>>>>>>>>>>> ---- direction > > > > >> | center alignment | > > > > >> ------------------------ > > > > >> | left alignment | > > > > >> ------------------------ > > > > >> | right alignment | > > > > >> ------------------------ > > > > >> > > > > >> In this case, if every vehicle has to respect this paradigm but > > > > >> motorbikes are free, I can devine > > > > >> places where the "virtual lane" is implemented. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks in advance, > > > > >> Lara > > > > >> > > > > >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:26:08 +0200 > > > > >> Jakob Erdmann <namdre.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > I'm taking this to the developer list because it's probably to > > > technical > > > > >> > for most users. > > > > >> > A good starting point is src/microsim/lcmodels/MSLCM_SL2015.cpp > > > > lines > > > > >> > 1683-1702 > > > > >> > The switch uses pre-computed values from above but you should > be > > > able to > > > > >> > use these variables as breadcrumbs to find your way around. > > > > >> > If you can describe the envisioned behavior I may have ideas > on > > > where to > > > > >> > best merge them with the existing code. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > regards, > > > > >> > Jakob > > > > >> > > > > > >> > 2018-09-20 11:06 GMT+02:00 Lara CODECA <lara.cod...@eurecom.fr > >: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Hello again, > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > if I need to implement an additional behavior, how should I > do it? > > > > >> > > Can I have some pointer to start digging in the SUMO code? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Regards, > > > > >> > > Lara > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 16:31:41 +0200 > > > > >> > > Jakob Erdmann <namdre.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Hello, > > > > >> > > > the alignments are now described at > > > > >> > > > http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Simulation/SublaneModel#Model_ > Details > > > > >> > > > regards, > > > > >> > > > Jakob > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > 2018-09-17 16:05 GMT+02:00 Lara CODECA < > lara.cod...@eurecom.fr > > > >: > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Dear All, > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > I'm working with the sublane model and I need an info. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > latAlignment: The preferred lateral alignment when using > the > > > > >> > > > > sublane-model. > > > > >> > > > > One of (left, right, center, compact, > nice, > > > > >> arbitrary). > > > > >> > > > > http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/Definition_of_Vehicles,_ > > > > >> > > Vehicle_Types,_and_Routes# > > > > >> > > > > Available_vType_Attributes > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Left, right, and center alignments are easy to guess. > > > > >> > > > > What is the difference between compact, nice, and > arbitrary? > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > >> > > > > Lara > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > -- > > > > >> > > > > Lara CODECA > > > > >> > > > > Postdoc > > > > >> > > > > Tel : 04.93.00.81.51 > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > EURECOM > > > > >> > > > > Campus SophiaTech > > > > >> > > > > http://www.eurecom.fr/ > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > > > sumo-user mailing list > > > > >> > > > > sumo-u...@eclipse.org > > > > >> > > > > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, > or > > > > >> unsubscribe > > > > >> > > > > from this list, visit > > > > >> > > > > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > >> > > Lara CODECA > > > > >> > > Postdoc > > > > >> > > Tel : 04.93.00.81.51 > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > EURECOM > > > > >> > > Campus SophiaTech > > > > >> > > http://www.eurecom.fr/ > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Lara CODECA > > > > >> Postdoc > > > > >> Tel : 04.93.00.81.51 > > > > >> > > > > >> EURECOM > > > > >> Campus SophiaTech > > > > >> http://www.eurecom.fr/ > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> sumo-dev mailing list > > > > >> sumo-dev@eclipse.org > > > > >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or > > > unsubscribe > > > > >> from this list, visit > > > > >> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-dev > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Lara CODECA > > > Postdoc > > > Tel : 04.93.00.81.51 > > > > > > EURECOM > > > Campus SophiaTech > > > http://www.eurecom.fr/ > > > > > > > -- > Lara CODECA > Postdoc > Tel : 04.93.00.81.51 > > EURECOM > Campus SophiaTech > http://www.eurecom.fr/ >
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