The junction shape is indeed strongly influenced by the start/endpoints of
the edges.
By default these points are indentical with the junction center but you can
set them anywhere you like.
(see
http://sumo.dlr.de/wiki/NETEDIT#Specifying_the_complete_geometry_of_an_edge_including_endpoints
).
In your example the vehicle edge coming from the right uses the default
endpoint of the junction center.

The computation logic is this:
- compute junction shape based on edge shapes, the intersection of
neighboring edges and the specified junction radius
- shorten or lengthen edges that reach beyond the junction shape or that do
not reach it for some reasion
- compute lane shapes

Note, that a custom lane shape completey overrides the computed shape so
you may still have invalid lane geometries depending on what you specify.

regards,
Jakob

2018-07-17 8:29 GMT+02:00 Barto, Martin <[email protected]>:

> Thank you for your answer Jakob,
>
>
>
> So if I change the shape of the junction, I should get the stoplines at
> the right position? I have the start and end positions of the edges, so it
> should be possible to make a shape by connecting them
>
>
>
> In my opinion the shape of the junction should be determined by the start
> and end points of the edges that are connected to the junction and not the
> other way around. Maybe you could think of another solution for the future?
>
>
>
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Martin Barto
> Senior Verkeerskundige
> Mobiliteit
>
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> *Verzonden:* dinsdag 17 juli 2018 00:55
> *Aan:* Sumo project User discussions <[email protected]>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [sumo-user] stoplines placed on the intersections
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> The waiting position of the vehicles is mainly determined by the junction
> shape. While you defined the connection shapes to start to the left of the
> bicycle crossing,
>
> the junction shape starts to the right of it and thus the vehicle edge is
> made longer to meet the junction shape.
>
>
>
> regards,
>
> Jakob
>
>
>
>
>
> 2018-07-12 23:11 GMT+02:00 Barto, Martin <[email protected]>:
>
> Dear SUMO-users,
>
>
>
> Last time I messaged, I had some issues regarding pedestrian crossings en
> bicycle paths. Thanks to your advices I managed to get a near real
> visualization of the controlled intersection. However I still see some
> strange things.
>
>
>
> The stoplines on the left approach are drawn to for to the right, behind
> the (controlled) pedestrian crossing and bike lanes. This is also shown on
> the bicycle paths, so the cyclists on the intersection instead of in front
> of it. Why is this happening? Do I have to configure an extra option on
> netconvert?
>
>
>
> The SUMO native files and the .net.xml are enclosed here. I call
> netconvert with the following options:
>
> netconvert --node-files=Output/KR27.nod.xml --edge-files=Output/KR27.edg.xml
> --connection-files=Output/KR27.con.xml --type-files=Output/all.typ.xml
> --tllogic-files=Output/KR27.tll.xml --no-turnarounds=true
> --junctions.corner-detail=5 --output-file=Output/KR27.net.xml
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Martin Barto
> Senior Verkeerskundige
> Mobiliteit
>
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