> Hi Michael,
>
First of all thanks for your reply.

what I usually do is running sumo 10 times or more with different random
seeds for duarouter to ensure random trips and different random numbers for
sumo. Then estimate the average delay for each run then get the average
delay for the ten runs. So I am using random seeds when running duarouter.

I do not think using only the meanTimeLossWithin alone is correct and this
is based on my understanding of E3 output file here:
https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Output/Multi-Entry-Exit_Detectors_(E3).html

as it mentioned that the meanTimeLossWithin is The average time loss
collected by vehicles that have entered but not yet left the area during
the written interval.

Anyway after comparing the results when using 10% LT and 30% LT of the
approach demand for the 10 runs, the delay for the 30% LT is always less
than the 10% LT whatever I change the cfm and lane change parameters. And
this does not make sense at all. To confirm that there is something wrong I
simulated the same Uturn intersection in vissim for 10 runs and the results
were making sense, as the 30%LT scenarios always give higher delay than the
10% scenarios.

in vissim if I run the simulation with the same exact random seed for let's
say 5 runs, I will get exactly the same results for of course the same
traffic volume and same scenario.

so my question is: it is possible to use the same random seed to do the
simulation, so I can compare different scenarios with exactly the same
random seeds for the 10 runs. If course every run will have different
random seed.

In sumo, the random seed used is a starting seed to use, so when using this
same seed I got different results for the same traffic volume and same
scenario.

Hopefully I am clear this time.

Regards,
Usama

Hi,

> I am not sure how duarouter can help here. It does not calculate any
> delays. I think you should rather run many simulations with different
> random seeds and then do statistics. Also why can't you use
> meanTimeLossWithin directly?
>
> Best regards,
> Michael
>
> Am 16.10.19 um 22:39 schrieb Usama Shahdah:
> > Hi:
> >
> > I would like to compare different scenarios (for Unturn intersections)
> > with different left turn movements (eg. 10%, 20% and 30% LT) using the
> > same random seed for both duarouter and sumo simulation.
> >
> > Is there a way to do so? and how?
> >
> > The issue I have right now is that for high traffic volumes (1250
> > veh/hr/ approach) and above, the delay for 30% LT is lower than for
> > 10%LT, which does not make sense to me.
> >
> > Please note that I am using E3 detector to estimate the delay, and I am
> > using the following formula to do so:
> >
> > Average Delay= (sum[meanTimeLoss * vehicleSum]?+ Sum[meanTimeLossWithin
> > * vehicleSumWithin]) /( vehicleSum + vehicleSumWithin)
> >
> > Any help will be appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Usama
> >
>
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