Hello Jakob, I understand your concern regarding the change or addition of new classes. It is absolutely fine till things are working, especially with backward compatibility. A splendid work has been done by you and your team, no doubts. We are lucky to have your advice, time to time, majority of the queries are sorted out within a day.
It is pretty nice to see renaming of the period attribute of route to cycleTime (also known as round trip time). It will be adopted and appreciated soon by the users. Just a query regarding the coexistence of *end* and *number* attributes in flow (see below). As per the current verion, both cannot be used simultaneously, is it contradictory? <flow id="bus_11" begin="0" number="2" period="120" departLane="best" line="11" type="bus" route="11"/> Kudos to your team again for such evolving development of SUMO. thanks and regards, Dillip Rout On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 22:27, Jakob Erdmann <namdre.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Harald, > Thanks for your suggestions > a) I agree that using the same attribute name for two related but subtly > different things is adding unnecessary confusion (I fact, confusion was > recently observed). > Since the 'period' attribute of flows has a lot of history behind it I'll > keep this unchanged. > However, I renamed route attribute period to 'cycleTime' (see > https://github.com/eclipse/sumo/issues/7168). > > b) Incidentally, I was thinking about the same thing recently and came up > with this: https://github.com/eclipse/sumo/issues/7164 > For an example. see > https://github.com/eclipse/sumo/tree/master/tests/sumo/devices/rerouting/stops/public_transport_implicit_route > > c) This is already working with the recent fix: > https://github.com/eclipse/sumo/tree/master/tests/sumo/devices/rerouting/stops/public_transport_implicit_route_depot > > > @Dillip Rout: I generally avoid adding new input definitions as long as > the existing ones can be used to achieve the desired results. Also, you may > find that there is good reason in keeping the edges/stop-list separate from > definition of the vehicles that run these stops (especially, when the > departure times of the vehicles are not spaced regularly over the whole > day). > In terms of changing ambiguous names, there is a large cost associated > with changing things that have been used by many people over many years. > The case of route attribute period / cycleTime is special insofar that the > feature was added recently and thus will not have been widely adopted yet. > This is not to dismiss thoughts on improvements but rather to point out > some of the constraints. Feel free to point out things that are confusing > and/or inefficient. > > regards, > Jakob > > > > Am Mo., 15. Juni 2020 um 11:03 Uhr schrieb Harald Schaefer < > fechs...@gmail.com>: > >> Hello >> >> here are some proposals for enhancing the repeated route stuff: >> >> a) change of attribute names >> >> In route I would rename period to cycletime (German: Umlaufzeit) >> >> In flow I would rename period to headway (German: Taktzeit) >> >> b) Can we add the repeat features to trips, if we want to specify only >> the stops and not the edges or allow an empty edge list? >> >> c) If I want to simulate a whole day, I need also the links to the depot >> in the morning and evening >> >> The definition in the testcase >> tests/sumo/rail/tramwayLoop/input_routes.rou.xml old (it has no >> intermediate edges) >> >> <trip id="tram1" depart="01" departLane="best" departSpeed="max" >> from="Tdepot_1" to="Tdepot_1" type="RB628"> >> <stop busStop="leftStop" duration="20"/> >> <stop busStop="rightStop" duration="20"/> >> <stop busStop="leftStop" duration="20"/> >> <stop busStop="rightStop" duration="20"/> >> <stop busStop="leftStop" duration="20"/> >> </trip> >> >> might look in the future >> >> <route id="startLeft" from="Tdepot_1" to="Tdepot_1" type="RB628"> >> <repeat count=2 cycletime=600> >> <stop busStop="leftStop" duration="20"/> >> <stop busStop="rightStop" duration="20"/> >> <stop busStop="leftStop" duration="20"/> >> </repeat> >> </route> >> <flow id="tram1" begin="1" end="300" departLane="best" >> departSpeed="max" route="startLeft" headway="120"/> >> >> What do you think? >> >> Greetings, >> >> Harald >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sumo-user mailing list >> sumo-user@eclipse.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, visit >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >> > _______________________________________________ > sumo-user mailing list > sumo-user@eclipse.org > To unsubscribe from this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sumo-user >
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