Thank you Mirko. I made a mistake while writing the mail (sorry!), here is
the correct probability of insertion, corresponding to the graphs I sent:
<flow id="517" type="vehDist_IDM_bus" line="517" begin="0.00"
route="Ruta_517" end="4500" probability="0.0155" />
<flow id="518" type="vehDist_IDM_bus" line="518" begin="0.00"
route="Ruta_518" end="4500" probability="0.0155" />

With these probabilities, it's "expected" to get around 110 buses per hour.

I will try the solution provided, using *--random-depart-offset* *<TIME>*
<https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Basics/Notation.html#referenced_data_types>..

Thank you,

Kind regards

El mié, 27 jul 2022 a las 14:43, Mirko Barthauer (<[email protected]>)
escribió:

> Although I don't get how you obtain several dozens of buses with twice the
> insertion probability of 0,0015. With very small flows, the relative
> variance can get quite large, so for some simulations, it might just be 10
> vehicles in total and 30 in others, but never 110.
>
> Anyway, see the docs <https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Randomness.html>for
> some suggestions how to procede. If you only have buses, maybe just insert
> them at regular intervals and add an offset *--random-depart-offset*
> *<TIME>*
> <https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Basics/Notation.html#referenced_data_types>.
>
> Best regards
> Mirko
> Am 27.07.2022 um 15:35 schrieb Jaime Moya:
>
> Hi Mirko,
>
> The scenario consists of a one lane road where only buses are being
> modelled. The flows vary between 10 b/h and 110 b/h.
>
> The buses are inserted at the route begin and there is no spillback. On
> the following image, I plotted the cumulative number of buses for each line
> (each graph is a replication)
> [image: image.png]
> As you can see, more 517 buses are inserted in almost all cases. Could it
> be related to randomness? How can I balance the number of buses,
> without inserting them at regular intervals?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Kind regards
>
> --
> Jaime Moya
> Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile
>
>
> El mar, 26 jul 2022 a las 3:13, [email protected] (<
> [email protected]>) escribió:
>
>> Hi Jaime,
>>
>>
>>
>> that's difficult to guess without knowing more about your scenario. Did
>> you check whether the buses are inserted at the route begin at all? Maybe
>> there is a spillback queue or many other vehicles want to enter the
>> simulation at the same place, such that SUMO cannot place new vehicles on
>> the road safely. If your network is too big to do this manually, think of 
>> placing
>> a detector
>> <https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Output/Induction_Loops_Detectors_%28E1%29.html>
>> (with attribute vTypes="vehDist_IDM_bus") at the route begin or adding FCD
>> output <https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Output/FCDOutput.html> to
>> your bus vehicle type to get relevant output for further diagnosis.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mirko
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>>
>> Betreff: [sumo-user] Modelling two bus lines of equal frequency
>>
>> Datum: 2022-07-25T18:59:30+0200
>>
>> Von: "Jaime Moya" <[email protected]>
>>
>> An: "Sumo project User discussions" <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am modelling two bus lines of equal frequency, but different stop times
>> at bus stops. To avoid buses being inserted at perfect regular times, I am
>> using probability:
>>
>> <flow id="517" type="vehDist_IDM_bus" line="517" begin="0.00"
>> route="Ruta_517" end="4500" probability="0.0015" />
>> <flow id="518" type="vehDist_IDM_bus" line="518" begin="0.00"
>> route="Ruta_518" end="4500" probability="0.0015" />
>>
>> However, in many scenarios I am obtaining big differences in the number
>> of simulated buses of one line with respect to the other (line 517 vs line
>> 518). For example, the following graph shows the difference (number of 517
>> buses minus number of 518 buses) for a number of simulated scenarios:
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> These differences are important because I am getting results with noise.
>> I don't want to use "vehsPerHour" or "number" because the buses would be
>> equally spaced. Should I use period [exp(x)]? Doing so would balance the
>> number of 517 and 518 simulated buses?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> --
>> Jaime Moya
>> Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile
>>
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