Hi Mirko,

Thank you so much for the response! Here are some follow up questions we
have:

   1. If we use a separate attribute, such as cost, and specify it in the
   --weight-attribute argument, do we still need to include the travel time in
   our weight file? Specifically, if we specify a weight attribute, would
   duarouter only use cost as the weight or would it also consider the travel
   time? I noticed in the example you sent, the travel times were all set to
   1. For example, should we use <edge id="1to3" cost="6"/> or <edge id="1to3"
   traveltime=”1” cost="6"/> ?
   2. For our project, we don’t see a need for the TAZ weight, as we
   ultimately only want to route by cost = travel time + toll and don’t want a
   probability distribution to choose departure/arrival edges in a TAZ. Is
   there a way to still use od2trips but disregard the TAZ weights (such as
   setting all weights to be 1)?
   3. Follow-up to question 2: If we have both TAZ weights and a weight
   file, which weight will take precedence, or are they both used? For
   example, say a TAZ has two departure edges A and B. Edge A has probability
   0.8 and effort 100, while Edge B has probability 0.2 and effort 50. Would
   the simulation take into account both the probability and cost or just one
   of the attributes?
   4. Is the TAZ weight relevant only at the initialization of the
   simulation or will the weights/probabilities be used iteratively throughout
   the entire simulation?

Thank you for your clarifications!

Best,
James

On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 4:32 AM Mirko Barthauer <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi James,
>
>
>
> you can use a separate attribute as effort and specify it through the
> *--weight-attribute* argument. See the examples
> <https://sumo.dlr.de/extractTest.php?path=duarouter/function/measure>
> from our tests. TAZ weights are a different topic – they are used to select
> a departure/arrival edge inside a TAZ (calling od2trips only, not
> duarouter/sumo) but not for the routing between origin and destination. See
> the docs
> <https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Definition_of_Vehicles%2C_Vehicle_Types%2C_and_Routes.html#traffic_assignment_zones_taz>
> .
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Mirko
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: [sumo-user] Question about Routing by Effort using SUMO
>
> Datum: 2023-08-12T03:08:44+0200
>
> Von: "James Cheng via sumo-user" <[email protected]>
>
> An: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear SUMO staff members,
>
>
>
> My main question is the following: how do we route by effort, where
> “effort” is travel time + toll? According to the documentation
> <https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Routing.html#routing_by_effort>, it
> is recommended to use a weight file for routing by effort. However, my team
> and I have a couple questions about the weight file:
>
>    1.
>
>    How do we encode our definition of effort into the weight file
>    
> <https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Simulation/Output/Lane-_or_Edge-based_Traffic_Measures.html#edge-based_network_states>?
>    Is it through the “traveltime” parameter?
>
> Moreover, in the above weight file format, is “traveltime” a keyword that
> specifically encodes traveltime for the edge? Or can we put another
> variable name to represent our effort, such as “effort = 3” instead of
> “traveltime = 3”
>
>    1.
>
>    In addition, looking through the SUMO directory, we were unable to
>    locate a formal definition of weights within the TAZ file and were
>    wondering if you could help define it. According to SUMO documentation
>    
> <https://sumo.dlr.de/docs/Demand/Importing_O/D_Matrices.html#differentiated_probabilities>,
>    the weight in the TAZ file is a “probability to use”, but is that an
>    initial probability for a car to use that edge when we generate the
>    simulation or is it iterative, in the sense that any time a car is
>    confronted with that edge during the simulation, it has that probability to
>    use the edge?
>    1.
>
>       In addition, what is the difference between the weights from the
>       weight file vs the weights from the TAZ file?
>       2.
>
>    As a clarification, what would be the best way to route by effort? Do
>    we use the weight file to route by effort or can we use the weights within
>    the TAZ file to route by effort as well?
>    1.
>
>       Any examples of routing by effort, besides only travel time, using
>       SUMO would be greatly appreciated!
>
>
>
> Thank you so much for your help!
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> James
>
>
>
> 
>


-- 
James Cheng
B.A. Computer Science and B.S. Business Administration
University of California, Berkeley
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