Sundials can be constructed and appreciated by children at many ages and
levels
of mathematical sophistication.

For example, the lines can be determined experimentally without any
mathematics
at all, as in the sixth grade sundial project:
<<http://www.mbnet.mb.ca/~frontena/sundial2.html>http://www.mbnet.mb.ca/~fr
ontena/sundial2.html>.  

With children familiar with computers from an early age these days, they could
start by entering latitude and longitude (perhaps obtained by pointing to
their
location on a map) into a computer program, which then prints a planar (or
other) dial.  The complexity in the formula comes from transforming into a
horizontal plane; I would think that a cylindrical or hemispherical dial would
not have that problem.

I agree that good explanations are essential at all levels, and that clear
explanations of the mathematics should be made available to those children
(and
adults) able to comprehend them.  If these explanations are not already
available on the Web, then it would be a useful project to provide them.

Gordon


At 03:01 AM 10/15/1999 , Warren Thom wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>After rereading my last post, I did not wish to insult anyone by
>implying  that C=2(pi)r was complex for them.  But that formula and
>Tan HA = Sin L x Tan t,  are complex if we wish to draw school age
>children into dialing.  So - how do we explain that math to school
>children?  Must we do so?  What can be done in dialling that is
>understandable with grade school math?  I liked Mac Oglesby's solar
>plane dials because he put a lot of effort into reducing the math - not
>an easy task.  Are constructions one way to go?  I think so.

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