Hi Dave and others:

Let me see if I understand your calculations.

First, knowing that 1 arcminute is the limit of visibility, you calculated
that 1 arcminute of width (of a line or point) is equal to a width of .0035
inches at one foot. or .35 inches at 10 ft. and so on.

The table which you so kindly provided (the second one with all the 1/16
inch increments) gives line widths in inches for different distances.  I
think it would be more useful for a sundial designer to have the table in a
more useable form that lists the maximum distance of visibily for different
widths.  (I picked 1/16 inch increments because these are the sizes of
hardware like rods, cables and spheres available)

Would you mind please checking my math?

Line width (inches) & maximum distance of visibility(feet)

1/16" =  17.9 ft.  (from 1/16/.0035)
1/8"   =  35.7 ft.  (from 1/8/.0035)
3/16" =  53.6 ft.   etc.
1/4"  =   71.1 ft.
5/16" =  89.3 ft.
3/8"  = 107.1 ft.
7/16" = 125 ft.
1/2" =   142.9 ft.
9/16" = 160.7 ft.
5/8" =  178.6 ft.
11/16" = 196.4 ft.
3/4" = 214.3 ft.
13/16" = 232 ft.
7/8 " = 250 ft.
1" = 285.7 ft.

(example: a line one inch thick is visible from 285 feet away)

thanks Dave,

John



 >On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, John Carmichael wrote:
>
>> Since the calculation of arcseconds is a bit complicated, what would help
>> would be some sort of precalculated table which would give the maximum
>> readability distance for different shadow widths.  For example, the table
>> might say that a 1/4 inch wide shadow is easily visible from 100 ft. or an
>> 1/8 inch cable is visible from 50 ft. and so on. (These numbers are not
>> correct as this is just an example)
>> 
>> I wish one of the dialist/optomologists who answered Ross's question could
>> come up with such a table, with shadow widths of 1/16 in to 1 inch in 1/16th
>> inch increments.  Then we wouldn't have to do the calculations.  This would
>> be very useful to us.
>
>Not too difficult...  Here are two versions:
>
>First, the required feature width (1 min) and character height (5 min) in
>inches, for 20/20 vision at a few distances. Obviously, scale up (or down)
>as needed (nearly exactly linear in this small angle region; for 100 ft,
>use 10 times the width for 10 ft, etc.):
>
>        1 min   5 min
>10 ft   0.035   0.175
>20 ft   0.070   0.349
>50 ft   0.175   0.873
>
>Second, your suggestion of inches by 1/16", in arc-minutes:
>
>        10 ft   20 ft   50 ft
>1/16    1.8     0.9     0.4
>2/16    3.6     1.8     0.7
>3/16    5.4     2.7     1.1
>4/16    7.2     3.6     1.4
>5/16    9.0     4.5     1.8
>6/16    10.7    5.4     2.1
>7/16    12.5    6.3     2.5
>8/16    14.3    7.2     2.9
>9/16    16.1    8.1     3.2
>10/16   17.9    9.0     3.6
>11/16   19.7    9.8     3.9
>12/16   21.5    10.7    4.3
>13/16   23.3    11.6    4.7
>14/16   25.1    12.5    5.0
>15/16   26.9    13.4    5.4
>16/16   28.6    14.3    5.7
>
>Dave
>
>

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