Hello all:

I've been having lengthy discussions with Fer, Sarah Edmonson and Steve
Lelievre about azimuthal (Dali) sundials. I have one more
observation/question that I'd like to make, but I thought I'd throw it out
to the List to get other people's input as well.

We briefly mentioned that for the vertical gnomon's shadow to reach the
outer concentric date ring at mid-day, it would have to be extremely tall,
especially at lower latitudes.  (Here in Tucson at 32.5 deg. N. , the sun is
only 9 degrees away from zenith on the summer solstice).  Bill Gottesman
suggested using a string tied to the gnomon's foot to artificially extend
the shadow's length to to outer ring during the mid-day hours.
(A telescoping rod serving as the vertical gnomon, like a car antenna, might
work also).

Here's another idea, but will it work?

Another way to solve the gnomon height problem might be to make the inner
ring the June ring, when the sun is highest and the shadow the shortest. The
next ring would be July followed by May, August, April, Sept, March, Oct,
Feb, Nov, Jan, and December as the outer ring.  This ring order would place
those summer short shadow months closest to the gnomon and the winter long
shadow months further out.  This ring arrangement would increase the number
of hours where the shadow crosses the date lines and make the dial more
functional.

However, arranging the date rings out of monthly sequence would make it
impossible to connect the hour lines in a nice curve. Instead, for each date
ring, wouldn't there just be a little time line segment, unconnected to to
hour line in the adjacent date ring?

I'm wondering if my idea would work, and if so, if I can get Fer's spin
program to do it.

any thoughts anyone?

John Carmichael
Tucson Arizona

p.s. for those of you still struggling to understand Dali and azimuthal
sundials, don't make the same mistake I did by confusing the terms "Azimuth
sundial" and "Azimuthal sundials". They aretwo completely different kinds of
sundials and are designed on Zonwvlak using two different programs!!!

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