[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Carmichael) writes:

> Thanks for taking the time to explain the Dali dial to us gnomonistically
> challenged dialists.  I think I'm beginning to understand it, but will have
> to think about it some more.  What threw me off was that I was thinking that
> a Dali dial would be draped over the edge of a table!

It could be, hence the thread title.

Perhaps it's best to start by thinking about a "normal" sundial with a
horizontal plate and a paraxial gnomon.  Design such a dial to read
clock time without any EoT correction.  Then design another dial to
read clock time plus 5 minutes, another to read clock time plus 10
minutes, and so on for +15 min, -5 min, -10 min, and -15 min (always
without any EoT correction).  Now, to read the time from such a dial
you don't need the whole plate.  Any ring will do.  So cut a ring out
of each of the 7 dials you just made, but of different radii so that
the rings do not overlap.  Properly position all the rings around a
single gnomon.  Now if you want a +5 min correction, you just read the
time from the +5 min ring.  For a -10 min correction, use the -10 min
ring.  Label each ring with the dates that its correction is valid,
and you have a version of my sundial.  At any given hour, the shadow
will always point in about the same direction, but will be shifted
right or left a bit due to the EoT.

If you move away from a paraxial gnomon, the concept becomes a bit
trickier because a plate with radial hour lines will only be accurate
for a particular declination of the sun, that is, a particular date.
But, look!  You are only using each ring for a particular date anyway,
so it doesn't matter.

Someplace around here we realize that most of what we have learned
about sundials doesn't matter any more either.  The gnomon could be
bent.  The plate could be warped.  You just have to make sure that the
shadow of the gnomon always crosses the date line at exactly one
point, and that this point is never in the shadow of something else
(like a fold in the plate).

I used this extreme flexibility to propose a sundial with date lines
in the shape of Arizona, but only after I checked a map to see that
Tucson was conveniently located (somewhat south of the middle) and
that no line radiating from Tucson intersects the border more than
once.

So.  I think you have caught on to the concept by now.  One thing I
like about some dial designs is their inevitability.  The plate *must*
be horizontal if it is to always be illuminated when the sun is above
the horizon.  The gnomon *must* be paraxial to minimize the difference
to clock time over the course of the seasons.  This concept, in
contrast, has very few constraints, although it is in a sense more
accurate than the conventional form.  How can this freedom best be
used?  Can we require the dial to do something new, that other dials
can't?  Is there an especially esthetic form?

Have fun with it.

Art

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