Hello Art,

In my programs suite zwvlak95 there is a program spin.exe to calculate such
a dial for a horizontal plane with circular scales of date and a vertical
style.
You also may name this type of dial an azimuthal dial.
All is for download at my URL below.

Happy dialling, Fer.

Fer J. de Vries
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.iae.nl/users/ferdv/
Eindhoven, Netherlands
lat.  51:30 N      long.  5:30 E

----- Original Message -----
From: Arthur Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 8:28 PM
Subject: Dali dials


> A "normal" sundial has the gnomon coaxial with the Earth.  This is
> done to keep the errors with respect to clock time to a minimum during
> the course of the year.  If we have the ambition to make our sundial
> read clock time to better than +/- 15 minutes, then we have to correct
> for the Equation of Time.  There have been many public discussions
> here and private ones in my head about the best way to do this.
> Simply reading a table or graph is inelegant and subject to errors of
> sign.  Methods which use the declination of the sun, either by using a
> specially shaped gnomon or by observing the shadow of a nodus, rather
> than an edge, are perhaps more esthetic, but they are inherently
> ambiguous at the solstices and double-valued the rest of the time.
>
> One way of thinking about the nodus methods (which has come up here in
> discussions of the EoT with respect to leap years) is that the
> declination tells you what the date is, and the figure-eight-analemma
> allows you to find (with the restrictions mentioned above) the EoT for
> that date.  It seems reasonable to suppose that everybody has a pretty
> good idea of the date already, so we are making the sundial do
> unnecessary work.  If we make the user do this work instead of the
> nodus, the figure-eight can be unfolded and made unambiguous.  (I am
> sure I have seem such a dial design somewhere, but I can't remember
> where.)  For example, the date-lines can be made concentric circles,
> from Jan 1 innermost to Dec 31 outermost, and the EoT for each hour
> marked as a nearly radial wavy line.  We could even trivially
> accommodate the change between standard-time and daylight-saving-time.
> As a practical matter, I think it would be easier to read clock time
> (corrected for EoT) from such a dial than from any alternative.  The
> freedom opened up by this arrangement is astounding: The date-lines
> can have (nearly) any shape, and they could all have different shapes
> (as long as they don't cross).  The gnomon need no longer be parallel
> to the Earth's axis; it doesn't even have to be straight!
>
> I could envision a Salvador Dali sundial, but maybe I should start
> with something for John Carmichael: Draw the outline of Arizona many
> times at different scales and put them inside of one another, but so
> that all the Tucsons overlap, and of course properly oriented with
> respect to the compass.  Put an obelisk at the location of the
> Tucsons.  Label each outline with a date and calculate (the hard
> part!) where the shadow of the obelisk will fall across that outline
> for that date and each hour of the day.  For each hour, connect the
> points for all the dates and label the resulting wavy line with the
> hour.  Voila!
>
> I'd love to do the design myself, but realistically I know I won't
> find the time any time soon, so I'd rather through the idea out to the
> world.  Is the description clear enough?  (The idea is probably
> between 500 and 2000 years old anyway.)
>
> Regards,
>
> Art Carlson
>

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