Gordon Uber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The length of the tropical year was determined with a gnomen between 
> successive solar solstices. The length of the sidereal year was determined 
> from successive heliacal risings.
> 
>  From Time in History by G. J. Whitrow.

I have long wondered how to make "accurate observations of the sun
relative to the stars" (as John Sheperd put it).  Given the key word
"heliacal rising", I have been able to find the definition and some
discussions on the Net.  I find it surprising that this could be, as
John Sheperd said, "pinned down to a single day".  Wouldn't this
depend on the brightness of the star and the viewing conditions and
God knows what?  On the other hand, the position of a given star at
sunrise will change by 1 degree from one day to the next, which seems
like a manageable distance.  And I suppose what counts (for present
purposes) is not what the actual relationship between the sun and the
star is, but just the reproducibility of the phenomenon.  Still, you
would need to take years where the meteorological conditions were
comparable.

As for determining the "length of the tropical year ... with a gnomon
between successive solar solstices", I don't believe this is a good
method.  One can determine the exact date/time of an equinox much more
accurately than that of a solstice (although the solstice is
conceptually a bit easier to deal with).

--Art Carlson

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