(This thread may be cold by now. My response has been delayed because 
my service provider, Earthlink, has problems delivering mail to this 
list as well as some addresses in Europe.  Are there other Earthlink 
users on this list?  I am trying to post this through the eGroup 
archive site)

Dr. Rafael Soler sent me some information about his "bifilar" sundials
after the Reutte competition in 1998.  (Interestingly, his English
translation refers to these as "Bithread Quadrants".  In drawings he
refers
to the styles of the gnomons as "threads" or directrix curves.)  

"Frans W. MAES" wrote:
>I found a picture (without explanation) of another, unique bifilar 
dial
>by Mr. Soler at: 
http://sundials.org/conference/1999/confpix/reutte.htm
>(bottom of page). Has that design actually been realized somewhere?

This was a picture of the model he sent to the Reutte competition.  In
August '99, Karl Schwarzinger found that the pedestal was broken and 
so
it may no longer be on display at the Reutte Museum.  However, some
small, desk
sized, portable dials of a similar, but horizontal, design were made 
in
1998 for the Department of Tourism, Government of the Balearic Islands
as gifts for VIPs. The design for the Reutte competition also came in 
a
form with the horizontal disc hung from above by vertical rod that 
acted
as the second gnomon.  

> I have searched the web for additional information on Mr. Soler's
> motivation. I found a large pole-style bifilar dial, including
>picture, in Barcelona, where the catenary is a parabola, 
(snip)
>http://www.gnomonica.org/es/it1.htm

As one can see in the photo, the N-S gnomon is horizontal.  The E-W
gnomon is a parabola opening upwards.  The resulting hour lines are 
not
straight except near noon.   This dial was built in 1993 for the 
Olympic
Village of Barcelona. 

Concerning motivation, I can only guess that it was a desire for
"sculptural presence". In the Genk park dial there may have been the
desire to combine a natural curve, the catenary that a hanging chain
forms, and a polar style.  The polar style provided straight hour 
lines
and the intersection provided a marker for datelines much like a nodus
on the style would. His drawings showed a proposed size that would 
have
the chain hanging from supports 3.5 m high and 5 m apart. 
Unfortunately,
only a small version was built and the chain is easily vandalized.  

In papers Dr. Soler recently sent me, he describes another "bifilar"
design he submitted for Genk.  This was for a fountain.  A N-S gnomon 
is
placed horizontally like a fence about 25 cm above ground level.  A 
jet
of water flows E-W over this at a controlled height 50 cm above the 
N-S
gnomon.  Now the intersection of the shadow of this parabola of water
and the horizontal fence makes the marker on the dial. None of the 
lines
are straight except near noon. The dimensions were kept small enough 
to
have a horizontal dial of about  9 m in diameter.  Too bad this was 
not
built.  I've often wondered how to do a sundial fountain with a water
gnomon!

As before, I think the "motivation" was to use the intersection of 
some
natural curves. 

Claude Hartman
35N 120W


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