Hi All

At risk again of exposing my limited math skills, I was wondering if it would 
be possible to get an approximation of the area of an elipse by the following 
method:

Average the length of the major an minor axises and then apply the formula for 
the area of a circle to this value, treating it as the diameter of a circle.

example: If the major axis equals 4 cm. and the minor axis equals 2 cm. then 
their average length is 3 cm. The area of a circle is pi times the diameter.  
So , 3 times pi = 9.42 square cms.

Would somebody check to see how close this is to the actual value? 

(p.s. I'm thinking that you could use the formula for the circumference of a 
circle in the same way to get the circumference of an elipse. )

Thanks

John L. Carmichael
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson Arizona 85718
USA

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frans W. MAES" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sundial Mail List" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Tony Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 5:51 AM
Subject: Circumference of ellipse


> Hi all,
> 
> Just to relieve the recent boredom of this list, how about this one:
> 
> As some of you may know, I have an analemmatic sundial in my
> garden (story on my homepage). The person who did the actual 
> work had to know how much material (tiles, bricks etc.) he would 
> need. Then I found out that there is no 'simple' formula for the 
> circumference of an ellipse. (I also found out that this led to a lot of 
> interesting mathematics, called 'elliptic integrals'. I knew the term, 
> but never realized where it came from.)
> 
> The formula for the area of a circle generalizes simply to the area of 
> an ellipse (pi x r x r  -> pi x a x b ; a and b being half the major and
> minor axes, resp.). What puzzles me since is, why the 
> circumference of a circle does NOT generalize simply (actually, not 
> at all) to an ellipse.
> 
> My question thus is: does anyone of you happen to know of a NON-
> mathematical, intuitively convincing explanation for the fact that 
> there is no 'simple' formula for the circumference of an ellipse?
> 
> Regards,
> Frans Maes
> 
> =====================================
> Frans W. Maes
> Peize, The Netherlands
> 53.1 N, 6.5 E
> www.biol.rug.nl/maes/
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