Frans:

I too was concerned about getting the proportions of the stretched photo as
close as possible to actual size of the sundial.  This can be done in two
ways.

If a sundial is circular or has a circle drawn somewhere on it (my dial has
a circle in the dial's center), the circle appears as an elipse in the
original untouched photo.  I simply stretched the photo until the elipse
became a circle, and this automatically produced a photo of correct
proportions of the sundial.

Or, if you have a square or rectangular sundial of known height and width,
just keep stretching or compressing until you get the correct proportions.

You could have problems if you are photographing a non-circular or
rectangular sundial which you can't measure, such as a vertical dial high up
on a wall.  If a dial is not square or circular, you'd have to guess its
shape when strtetching.

John

John L. Carmichael Jr.
Sundial Sculptures
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson Arizona 85718
USA

Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: <http://www.sundialsculptures.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frans W. MAES" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: Sundial Trick Photography


> Hi All,
>
> John Carmichael wrote:
>
> > But I discovered that by using digital editing, you can stretch or
> > compress a photo so that it appears that camara was directly over the
> > dial!  I discovered this while using the "perspective" and "distort"
> > features of Adobe Photo Delux.
>
> I sometimes apply the same trick, using Paint Shop Pro. Starting
> with a picture of a rectangular dial face taken at an arbitrary angle,
> this involves 4 steps: the horizontal and vertical perspective tools are
> used to make the sides parallel, then the horizontal and vertical
> skewing tools are used to make them parallel to the picture frame.
>
> My question, however, is: does this procedure guarantee to yield the
> correct result? That is: is the resulting height/width ratio equal to that
> of the original? If not, angles between hour lines would be distorted.
> As a consequence, it would be impossible to check the correctness
> of the hour line layout, or to calculate the latitude for which the dial
> was designed.
>
> Kind regards,
> Frans
>
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