Thanks Gordon, that's just the number I was looking for. The minimum
projection distance at of the telescope sundial is 8 meters and the maximum
is distance is 8 meters.

According to the ratio of 1/107 (or multiplication factor of .0093), then
the penumbra width varies from .07meters (= 7cm or 2.5in.) to .21meters
(=21cm or 8in.) Is this correct? It seems about right.

Thanks

John

John L. Carmichael Jr.
Sundial Sculptures
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson Arizona 85718
USA

Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: <http://www.sundialsculptures.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Uber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: Penumbra Ratio


> John,
>
> The width of the penumbra on a surface is the distance from the style to
> the surface times the angular diameter of the sun in radians (about 1/107)
> divided by the cosine of the angle between the normal (perpendicular) to
> the surface and the sun's ray. So basically you are correct, although
1/107
> would be a better value. The value varies by about +/- 2% during the year
> due to the elliptical orbit of the earth.
>
> For the year 1999 the following web page gives a mean solar diameter of
> 1923 arc seconds, corresponding to 1/107.3 radians = 0.009323 radians.
> The maximum is 1955 arc seconds, and the minimum is 1891 arc seconds.
> Angular diameters from
> http://www.astrosurf.com/taf/dim-ogg-neg/don-sole-eng.htm
>
> Gordon
>
>
> At 06:18 AM 6/15/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hello All
> >Does anybody remember the exact ratio or multiplication factor that will
> >determine the width of the  a shadow's edge penumbra if you know the
> >distance from the style to the penumbra's image?  Isn't the penumbra's
with
> >about 1/100th the projection distance?  And couldn't this ratio be viewed
in
> >graphic or tabular form?
> >
> >I ask because I'd like to be able to calculate the theoretical penumbra
> >width at different points along the Kitt Peak Sundial perimeter
timelines.
> >
> >John
> >
> >John L. Carmichael Jr.
> >Sundial Sculptures
> >925 E. Foothills Dr.
> >Tucson Arizona 85718
> >USA
> >
> >Tel: 520-696-1709
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Website: <http://www.sundialsculptures.com>
> >
> >-
>
> Gordon Uber   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  San Diego, California  USA
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>

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