Mike Shaw's method sounds too wonderfully simple to be true. However, I
would perhaps suggest one small change if this is to apply to distant
'clients' ordering dials (which is how I seem to remember this thread
starting!). I would supply paper to which was attached a square or thin
strip of reflective 'melinex' or similar plastic. How many people
necessarilly have a plain mirror (or is that plane mirror) to hand or even
know what is meant by the term? 

One point: I assume one has to look for the reflection at 90 degrees to the
plain of the paper (this may be a naive point to ask, but I'd just like to
be sure)

Peter Tandy


At 09:32 PM 7/29/02 +0100, you wrote:
>   John  carmichael wrote << I wish we could come  up with an easy >>   My
>suggestion  is:   Give these instructions to the  client.    paper  to the
>outside of a vertical window on the wall whose declination you want to 
>know. 2) Hang a plumb bob about 1  foot away from the window, with the bob
>in a bucket of water (as a  damper). 3) Hold a small plain mirror  against
>the paper. 4) Note the date and time when  the string, the shadow of the
>string, and the  reflection of the string all coincide.   When you get the
>results, use  the "Dialists Companion" programme to get the sun's azimuth,
>and hence the  wall's declination. 1 minute is equivalent to about  0.25 of
>a degree.   Assumes you know the correct  latitude and longitude.    Mike
Shaw
>
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jmikeshaw/
>
>N 53º 21'  24"
>W 03º 01' 47"
>Wirral, UK.
>
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